New Info Supports Officer in Shooting of Philando Castile

Philando Castile was shot by Officer Yanez, which set off a firestorm

Philando Castile was shot by Officer Yanez, which set off a firestorm

New Information Supports Officer Yanez in Shooting of Philando Castile

As we had previously reported, Philando Castile was stopped by St. Anthony Officer Jeronimo Yanez because Officer Yanez had suspected Castile of being involved in a convenience store robbery that had occurred several days earlier. We have now discovered that Officer Yanez was one of the officers who had responded to that robbery. On the day of the shooting, Officer Yanez’ reason for stopping Castile was because Officer Yanez had known specific facts and circumstances that led him to believe that Castile may be the robber; Philando Castile was shot by Officer Yanez on that traffic stop. This new information explains how Officer Yanez knew enough about the case to suspect Castile of being the robber.

The media has suggested that their copy of the robber’s photo is not clear enough for Officer Yanez to reasonably believe that Castile was the suspect. However, because Officer Yanez was on scene, he knew a lot more than the media does about the circumstances of the robbery. It is likely that Officer Yanez saw the full security footage himself. Whether or not Castile actually was the robber, Officer Yanez had reason to suspect that Castile was the individual who committed the robbery.

Philando Castille robbery suspect: Security footage of robbery

Philando Castille suspected of this robbery

We’ve also learned that when Officer Jeronimo Yanez shot Philando Castile, it wasn’t Officer Yanez’ first contact with Castile. Police records show that Castile had been arrested for an outstanding warrant and driving on a revoked license in 2011; Officer Yanez was the officer who had booked him into jail.

Castile’s criminal history is now being discussed much like Alton Sterling’s criminal history. Alton Sterling was shot in Baton Rouge when he tried to pull out his illegally possessed gun to kill police officers. Alton Sterling’s criminal history showed the he had a history of violently attacking law enforcement, and his history painted a clear picture of the type of person who would try to murder two cops.

However, Philando Castile’s criminal history shows no propensity towards violence. Castile had a long criminal history, with no less than 22 individual arrests on his record. Most of Castile’s arrests were for traffic-related crimes; there were no violent offenses or felony arrests on file for Castile.

Officer Yanez - Alton Sterling shot while trying to pull out his gun

Alton Sterling was shot while trying to pull out his gun

The criminal arrest history of Philando Castile’s does not appear to be directly relevant to the shooting, but it does show that the media and his family have been spreading lies and misinformation. Law enforcement had reportedly stopped Castile 52 times in the past few years. The media narrative has been that racial profiling is the only factor that could account for so many stops. We now know that officers were actually stopping Castile for repeatedly committing traffic-related crimes. Those aren’t minor violations like having a light out, they are crimes. I have personally never seen any other individual who has such an extensive history of criminal traffic offenses.

The narrative of events surrounding the shooting, thus far, has been controlled entirely by Castile’s girlfriend, Diamond Reynolds. Reynolds lied when she said that Castile had no criminal history; Castile’s criminal history is quite long.

In an interview with CNN, Roseville Police Chief Rick Mathwig has also called out Reynolds for being a liar:

• Officers started administering CPR three minutes after arriving at the scene, trying to save Castile’s life, Mathwig says. “It hurt me … to hear the governor of Minnesota saying that Mr. Castile did not receive CPR,” he says.

• Diamond Reynolds, Castile’s fiancée who recorded the shooting aftermath in a Facebook Live video, wasn’t detained by police all night, Mathwig says. The police chief says she was held for about two hours in what’s called a “soft interview room” because it also contains toys, books and blankets.

• Mathwig says investigators did what they could to help Reynolds and her 4-year-old daughter. Before dropping her off at home, Mathwig says an officer gave the child a teddy bear.

We still don’t have enough information to determined whether the Philando Castile Shooting was justified, but we have reason to doubt the version of the story that is being told by Reynolds.

  • Gene Splicer

    With 22 arrests it’s safe to assume he wasn’t reaching for his concealed carry permit. That lying crackhead got good men murdered!

    • hardresetamericadotcom

      Amen

    • Dan

      Seems like you can’t read too well. Directly from the article:

      “Most of Castile’s arrests were for traffic-related crimes; there were no violent offenses or felony arrests on file for Castile.”

      Only felony convictions can bar you from getting a carry permit…..genius.

      It’s already been proven that he had a carry permit…..genius.

      You and the 5 idiots that liked your idiotic post need to go back to school.

      • Ball Buster®

        If he had a carry permit, then he should have known to put your hands on the dashboard and ask the officer how to proceed. You do not reach for anything including your wallet. And the sheriff of that county said he did not have a permit in that county.

        • Bryan St

          This is the part I don’t understand. If you were reaching for a ID, as a permit holder, I wouldn’t think you would make that action, until you have made it clear to the officer you are a permit holder and armed. No officer would allow you to reach for anything at that point, they would remove you from the vehicle, secure the weapon then confirm the ID and permit.

          One part of the video shows what looks like the gun on his lap, left leg. If it was laying out, that combined with hand movements… all paths are bad from there.

          Time will tell if we get more info…

          • John Baker

            I have been pulled over a few times for going too fast. I also carry all the time. When the officer gets to the car, I have my license and permit in hand and my hands on top of the steering wheel. I give the permit and license to the officer and ask them how I should proceed. NEVER have had a problem.

          • Hotep2you

            He was NOT the driver. AND he readily volunteered the info that he had a gun, and a permit to carry.

          • EpicMale

            He WAS the driver. The phone the woman used reversed the image. However, if you paid attention, you could still see the steering wheel before him. He said, “I have a gun”, and reached for his wallet. The gun was NOT holstered. If you look at stills from the video, you can see the gun stuck in his waistband above is zipper, ‘gangsta’ style. Furthermore, the gun appears to be a Ruger MKII or MKIII .22LR, which, coincidentally, is the exact same gun as that used in a recent armed robbery, where the suspect looks remarkably like Philando.

          • Thanks Columbo….not!

          • EpicMale

            Have you any salient points, or do you just snipe from the peanut gallery?

          • So, in your twisted suspense novel thought processes, you call being a police apologist that condones an innocent citizen assassination making salient points? Us curious sniping peanuts really want to know.

          • EpicMale

            First, I am a firearms expert, and have been certified so by a Federal Superior Court. I can identify firearm far better than you, and yes, that was a Ruger MK II or MK III in the hand of the armed robber, and half tucked into the front of Castile’s pants after he was shot, and as was documented by his girlfriend with her camera.

            I note how you don’t deal in facts. You deal in slander, personal attacks, and hysteria. The fact is that Castile was a stoner. His girlfriend documented that fact with a video she posted of them smoking pot in a public place while her little girl was inside the vehicle. She stated herself that he told the police officer he had a gun, and was ‘just reaching for his permit’. That is a way to get shot. The proper procedure, which has been written numerous times by others in this discussion is to inform the law enforcement officer that you have a CHL, and state the location of the firearm, WHILE KEEPING YOUR HANDS ON THE STEERING WHEEL. Cops are not obligated to let idiots reach for a gun!

            Now, you can get all butthurt about it, or learn something about real life. Soak your brain in dope and you are likely to be another Darwin Award feature.

          • msdennis

            And 5,000 other Black males. But wait the writer suggested that Mr. Castile was known by Yanez because he had previously arrested him. So Yanez mistook him for another AA with a wide nose & dreads. I have not yet heard that Mr. Castile was identified as the robber.

          • EpicMale

            Uhh….he is dead. The law does not pursue convictions of dead people. DOH! However, he did resemble a BOLO (Be On the Look Out) for a man of similar appearance. When you are on a public road, and you appear to resemble a violent felon, the police have not only the right, but the DUTY, to ask you a few questions. Investigation is part of law enforcement’s job description.

            He was not necessarily known by Yanez. The officer had been present as back up when Castile was cited/arrested for a traffic offense. Usually the backup doesn’t interact, but focuses upon the person’s hands or the passenger’s behavior.

          • Paul Hue

            The officer did not “mistake” Philando for the robber. The officer saw somebody who looked just like the robber. The police have not revealed any further information about the possibility that Philando was that robber.

          • Paul Hue

            …and of course his wallet was located in his front pocket (men who sag their pants have to keep their wallet in the front pocket) and it was thus touching the gun in his lap. What a mess. When are the police going to make a statement about how Philando compares to that robber? Have they matched the two, have they cleared Philando? Did the Newports in the car have tax stamp serial number that matches those stolen by the robbers?

          • EpicMale

            We know that detailed investigations take time. Unfortunately, there are segments of our population have not learned patience.

          • Paul Hue

            Philand WAS the driver (his trashy girlfriend films backwards, for some reason), and he did NOT volunteer any information about his gun until it was WAY TOO LATE, and even then he omitted informing the officer the location of the gun, and no, Philando never told the officer that he was licenced to carry; his trashy girlfriend did, but again, way too late.

          • Carl W

            Are you black? I’ll guess no.

          • Paul Hue

            Race has NOTHING to do with it. Had John Baker been black and proceeded as he described, he would not be shot by the traffic cop. However, if John is white and behaved like Philando, he would get shot.

          • Carl W

            Behaved like Philando? You mean sitting in a vehicle with a legal weapon, and identifying that he had a legal weapon in his possession while sitting in the passenger seat. Man, he was asking for it…

            Under the same circumstances John would have been just fine. Must be nice to be a white guy. I should know. Race had everything to do with this, and that’s coming from this white guy.

          • Paul Hue

            Behaved like Philando: Drive around smoking dope WITH A CHILD IN THE CAR and in possession of a stash of dope… WITH A PISTOL IN YOUR LAP (and a child in the car!), and when a cop pulls you over, don’t mention the gun until AFTER the cop requests ID and you are reaching for a wallet that’s in your front pocket, abutting the gun in hyour lap, and never tell the officer the location of the gun, and disregard his fresh order to reach up and freeze.

            The best case scenario for Philando that day was going to be arrest for driving high, possessing dope, and child endangerment. His dangerous poor choices in handling the fact of his gun caused his death. Still no word from the police about the possibility that Philando and the robber who looked just like him are the same.

            Had Philand not gotten himself shot, but rather instead merely arrested, his passenger would have been arrested, too.

          • Pam Dworshak

            All I can say to you is maybe take some time out and really research this, there is a video of the cop saying he told him not to move and a concealed carry permit does not mean on your lap, and if he would have stopped to remember what he was to do, things would have ended differently. This has nothing to do with color, it has to do with not thinking and doing what was asked of him.A white person would have been shot to. Research things first before making comments. The cop is a good person, research him also. I can tell you don’t have a concealed carry permit, key word concealed, not open carry.

          • Carl W

            The video of the cop saying that, is the same video everyone is talking about. I shoot you, then say “I told you not to move”, that means I was justified? I just have to say that on camera? Hey is that gullible on the ceiling?

            Show me a picture of a gun in his lap. No one can do that, because it isn’t real. A white person would not have been shot under the same circumstances, and if you believe that you are a fool.

          • Pam Dworshak

            Why do people act like white people don’t get shot by cops? More white people are shot then black. Is it just because the media doesn’t cover it? Google “Philando Castile picture with gun on his lap” Go under images and you will see more pictures even. Why is it so hard for people to just do as they are asked to do? Why!?!?! So many lives would have been saved if they would just do as they are asked to do! Take some time and just search white people killed by cops, and most of them didn’t do as they were asked also.

          • Paul Hue

            I presume that among the first words out of your mouth include a declaration of where the gun is located. This fool had a gun sitting in his lap and never revealed that fact! And it took the PASSENGER to mention the licence to carry!

          • Carl W

            You are confused. It’s most likely a common occurrence in your daily life. You could probably overcome it, but the first step is admitting you have a problem. I won’t hold my breath.

            He was in the passenger seat, he was not the driver. He did identify he had a weapon, and he had the legal right to it. He has had many other run ins with this same officer, yet not a single one of them ever ended violently. He fit the description of the suspect in a crime nearby, AKA he was black. His only actual “crime” was being black.

            Pull your head out the sand and stop being a denier. I bet you think Global Warming is a myth, Mexicans are all rapists, and all Muslims are radicals. This stuff happens whether you allow yourself to believe it or not, and people like you are the reason this kind of discrimination and violence by Police continues to happen.

          • Paul Hue

            Philando was in the passenger seat? All your credibility collapses with that statement. .You asserting that inaccuracy exposes that your knowledge of this incident is superficial and incomplete. He was the driver.

            And according to the high, dope-possessing negligent mother in the passenger seat, Philando never mentioned the existence of a gun until AFTER the cop requested ID (which is dangerously too late), Philando NEVER mentioned his carry permit — SHE DID, also dangerously late in the process (he was high also, and maybe that’s why he was so late remembering to reveal this information) — and Philando NEVER mentioned EVER the location of his weapon (again, maybe his own highness explains that omission), which the officer had to find out suddenly, when Philando’s movement towards his lap exposed the gun sitting there.

        • SkivMarine

          A permit issued in any county in Minnesota is good for the entire state. He didn’t have a permit issued in Ramsay County, but that doesn’t mean he didn’t have a permit from another county.
          Also; if he had a permit from another state that is recognized by Minnesota, it would be the same as if he had a Minnesota permit.
          In any case, this has been settled; he DID have a permit to carry.

          • BLM=TERRORIST GROUP ✓ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ

            Please show credible proof of your claims.

          • SkivMarine
          • ALL LIVES MATTER ✓ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ

            That is a letter that can be faked all day long and even if true, it could have been revoked. Current licensing record from the county issued in and verification from that sanctioning agency. Nothing else proves anything.

          • SkivMarine

            Philando Castile had a valid permit to carry a gun when he was shot and killed by a St. Anthony police officer, a source confirmed to the Star Tribune Friday…Although the names of gun permit holders are not public under state law, a source confirmed Castile was issued the permit when he lived in Robbinsdale. (source: Minneapolis Star-Tribune, July 9, 2016)

            The attorney for the family of Philando Castile — Glenda Hatchett — says he did in fact have a valid permit to carry a gun.
            WCCO-TV has obtained a copy of a form letter from Hennepin County Sheriff Rich Stanek. It was sent to Castile as a new permit holder dated June 4, 2015… the permit to carry was still valid at the moment of Castile’s death.

            Need any more, or will this be sufficient?

          • ALL LIVES MATTER ✓ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ

            I let you know what would be credible. This is not even close. No way would I ever take the word of a lawyer or a liberal rag. If you choose to believe them, that is on you. When all the facts come out we will know the truth.

          • SkivMarine

            You said “credible proof”. I have provided THREE sources.
            The facsimile letter, the newspaper article, and the report from WCCO TV.
            The attorney presented that letter to the public. If it is a forgery, he is setting himself up for disbarment in the State of Minnesota; I highly doubt he would take that risk.
            By refusing to accept this evidence your are simply changing the goal posts. You strike me as the kind of person who would deny it if I told you that water is wet.

          • ALL LIVES MATTER ✓ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ

            So how do you reply to the reports from the police that say he had no conceal carry permit? You can say whatever you want, but like I said before, I am going to wait on the facts.

          • SkivMarine

            I gave you the facts. You just choose to be obstinate. That, sir, is the sign of infancy.
            You’re not worth talking to.

          • OpaqueMael-flex

            Idk why you’re wasting your time, look at this guy’s name, it says it all, you should know by now what you’re dealing with.
            e.i. willful ignorance, pseudo-skepticism, Donald Trump Support, All Lives Matter tag etc xD

          • ALL LIVES MATTER ✓ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ

            You are right. They are wasting their time. Wasting their time believing BS from liberal rags and blog sites. Whatever happened to waiting for all the facts before drawing a conclusion? That is what normal people like myself do. We do not go off half cocked starting riots and killing police because the MSM jumps to conclusions and promotes a false narrative.

            So, you tell you me what is wrong with waiting for all the facts to be in before “knowing” what happened, instead of “guessing” what happened?

          • santiago

            I am conservative, and as a conservative I believe Police has NO authority to shoot until being shot at. Also as a conservative I believe in simple laws and smaller government, and dislike the criminalisation of individuals, like the prohibition of drugs including it’s production and distributions, since NO ONE has the authority to dictate what I can do, stick up my nose, smoke or eat.

            I believe that Police is enjoying authority it does not have or was not conceded by the people, and that police should enjoy the same armament that I can enjoy, no more no less.

            I am also a little xenophobic and racist, I do not like Muslims, many blacks and I definitely do not like thugs, even if they have a badge.

            Saying this I believe that police all around the world are out of control, and because of hubris due to Authority they do not deserve and should not have, they have a mentality of false authority and are just bullies specially against the poorest and the weakest. This also has made them very corrupt, the average police officer is a corrupt thug.

            This mentality has to end, it is better to get a bullet than to kill an innocent civilian, that is what should be taught and enforced in the courts. A police officer commits manslaughter, he or she should go to jail for double the amount of time than a normal civilian would, just because police enjoy all the equipment, training, and numbers, thus an accident or a homicide by a cop is much worse, than the homicide or accidental death of a cop at the hands of a civilian.

            It is time to put the police in its’s place, as servants of the people, fist civilians, then civilians and after that the police.

          • Michael George Cowan

            You watch too many movies! The bad guy is not always a bad shot… What happens when the bad guy shoots a cop in the head? Kinda hard to return fire when you’re dead. P.S. You’re not a conservative you’re a Libertarian.

          • santiago

            Sorry but it is a risk police should take. Giving a free pass to Police because of lack of clear legislation is a big risk, feelings should not be a catalyst for professionals to shoot someone, because then anyone can say they FELT threatened when they WERE NOT threatened, also huge difference in both concepts, one is relative in nature the other is factual.
            Police are paid for the risk of receiving a bullet while trying to calm down a perpetrator. If the perpetrator did not show clear signs of intention to kill (and no pointing a gun does not qualify), then you leave it all in relativity, which is what Liberals do, bask in relativity. If a perpetrator has already tried to run over someone, has taken any action that he is willing to kill or harm others in his/hers attempt to escape, etc… then the use of deadly force is a must, and an obligation but not before that. Again, pointing or taking a gun out does not mean intention to kill, it can be intention to dissuade bully, or even threaten and from that to actually acting there is also a HUGE difference. And the police should know that, after all they also take threatening stances pointing guns at individuals in order to dissuade them or to scaring them in to giving themselves up, right? So taking your earlier argument, if they do this things with guns with no intention to actually kill until they may need to, why not give the individual, the same benefit of the doubt that you are so willing to take for yourself?

          • Michael George Cowan

            “Police are paid for the risk of receiving a bullet”??? Since when!?! Police officers get paid to a job, no different than anyone else. If that were true they’d be earning a whole lot more money they currently do! They go to work with the knowledge they could get shot, yet they still go to work. If a cop is pointing a gun at you and says hands up and you reach for or go to raise a weapon then too effing bad your a bad guy or suicidal and the world is a safer place without you. And no they do not take a threatening stance, they take a shooters stance its used to help balance the shooter in case he has to fire. (i’m going to assume you have little or no firearm experience) it also decreases the size of the shooters profile making him a smaller target.

            Libertarians are neither. Unlike liberals or conservatives, Libertarians advocate a high degree of both personal and economic liberty.

          • Joatham Mcgainey

            I would suggest you do a little research of policing in America. Police officers Only started carrying guns in America after one police officer felt afraid of a man and opened fire with his own private gun he had brought to his work. This was in NY. The city sided with the officer, and ever since, police started carrying guns in America. And incidentally, after that was when the number of citizens killed by police in America began to rise to epic proportions. Originally, America kept themselves like England and didn’t issue firearms to their police officers. But they veared away from this stance and now we’re in all this mess of today. A direct result of a stupid decision by NY city.

          • Michael George Cowan

            United States Marshals Service carried guns since inception, in 1789. Now go cry on Canada’s shoulder.

          • Joatham Mcgainey

            Miss something here. I’m talking about, like regular patrol officers? Not US Marshals since Marshal don’t go walking their beat, looking for problems. No, I’m talking about an established police department stupid. Learn the difference.

          • Michael George Cowan

            ??? Marshals didn’t walk beats??? Mayhaps your history books were produced in China… Deputy Marshals walked beats all over the country. Betwixt your epic study marathons and ancillary comment trolling you might find time to watch a few westerns. (Wild Bill Hickock, Bat Masterson and Wyatt Earp might disagree with you.)

          • Joatham Mcgainey

            OK. Correction. I should have clarified this from the beginning. I’m not talking about the wild west, where many things were done beyond the pale. No, I was talking about the North. 1858 was first time that a police officer shot a fleeing felon (with his personal, non-department issued weapon).

            As for the South, during that time, the first organized southern police departments were often seen in the guise of slave patrols. In fact, Charleston slave patrol, composed of 100 members in 1837, was the largest law enforcement agency. Then finally, the Savannah police department was established in 1852. The job of the southern police department was mainly to protect white supremacy. (An Introduction to Policing, by John S.Dempsey and Linda S. Forst).
            So in fact, the north had the first organized police department (like our local police departments we have today) which didn’t consist of marshals and slave patrols.

          • Joatham Mcgainey

            Correction. I should have said it earlier. I am referring to the northern police. The Northern police departments were the first organized police (like what we have in cities today). The southern police at that time were mostly seen in the form of slave patrols and the wild west relied on mainly on local sheriffs and federal marshals. The marshals, in turn, relied on mostly local militias. You need to watch lest of those western shows.

          • Michael George Cowan

            Wow you keep having to correct yourself, for a person who claims to study so much it’s a bit disconcerting. “Originally, America kept themselves like England and didn’t issue firearms to their police officers. But they veared (veered corrected courtesy of me) away from this stance and now we’re in all this mess of today.” This was your argument. Which was proven wrong considering the fact that the US marshalls were armed in 1789 and when you throw in the fact that England did not have an organized police force till 1829, it kind of puts your whole argument in the toilet or the “Loo” as the brits are so apt to say. Honestly, is this the best our colleges can do? My tax dollars are being wasted on university subsidies.

          • Joatham Mcgainey

            I didn’t say that England didn’t have an organized police force lol. Did you even complete high school? I said the North had the First organized police force in America! I didn’t even reference England except to draw a correlation between England’s police lack of carrying firearms and the police departments in the North who did the same thing! As for the rest of the country, I already corrected that! I acknowledged that the US Marshals were created in 1789, and I agreed that they carried guns. But I said Organized Police departments, not the US marshal service. The US Marshal service use to rely on local militias to help them enforce the law, so no, they were not the first organized police department. The US Marshals are under federal jurisdiction, you fool, not the states! They are under the federal judiciary of the USA.

            I was talking about a local and State run-organized Police force when I mentioned first organized police department! If you don’t understand the difference, then you shouldn’t have been able get your GED or high school diploma! Your lack of understanding the difference between state jurisdiction and federal jurisdiction is astounding!

          • Michael George Cowan

            Wow, once again. You stated that the US “modeled” their police force on the British, that’s incorrect. America’s first organized police force predates the British so no correlation is possible. Do you just cut and paste or do you actually forget what you’ve typed? You said us marshals didn’t walk beats, that is incorrect, us marshals and their deputies most certainly walked beats Even without the wild west in many small towns they were the only law. What’s funny is then you try to segue about how you meant the north and start talking about the southern states and slaves lmao. What’s funniest of all is you try to defend your ignorant argument by stating a state police force is nothing like a federal or national police force! Roflol
            po·lice
            pəˈlēs/Submit
            noun
            1.
            the civil force of a national or local government, responsible for the prevention and detection of crime and the maintenance of public order.

            OMG you have got to be the saddest troll of all time!
            You’ve even had to correct yourself! Are you kidding me! Holy hell your freaking hilarious. You really should consider taking a remedial criminal justice course, the first one doesn’t seem to have helped you at all.
            All that studying you supposedly do hasn’t done sh#t for you, maybe you should make up some criminal justice flashcards! Or maybe consider a different field of research or you could start teaching English to refugees!

          • Joatham Mcgainey

            1. I Never said that the USA Modeled their police force after the British. But yes, the structure of their police was modeled after the Brits. Have you ever heard of Sir. Robert Peel, the man responsible for creating a military-like discipline and order for the police department in London. He is also known as the “founder of modern policing…many believe that England model of policing eventually became the model for the United States”. An Introduction To Policing by Michael Dempsey and Linda Forst. I didn’t say the North modeled their system of policing from England; I only said that both the police departments in the early Northern United States and England didn’t use guns. But yes, as you try to deny, England is not only the founder of the American concept of Common law (which I doubt you are even familiar with) but also the founder of modern American policing (minus the use of firearms)! Don’t argue with me, argue with the text! So if you want to better yourself, stop watching so much western shows and go back to college. You’re so ignorant its sad!

            2nd. I didn’t say US Marshal didn’t go walking their beat in the past! I said “Not US Marshals since Marshal don’t go walking their beat, looking for problems”, which I meant that we don’t see US marshal everyday, walking the streets and patrolling neighborhoods.I was interchangeably using police standards of today and then!

            “What’s funniest of all is you try to defend your ignorant argument by
            stating a state police force is nothing like a federal or national
            police force! Roflol”

            I never said that you fool! I said “Do you not even know the difference between the state and federal levels of law enforcement?” The difference to you mean that the state police is nothing like the federal? Mercy, goodness, you don’t even know how to correctly annotate a post?! God help you! Get your back on back to school! I’m done with you and your lies as you are using lies, twisting states, and half-truths to support your points! And why? Because you’re just as stupid as the Donald whom you probably support!

          • Michael George Cowan

            Son, get a refund on your education, you got ripped off. No one gives a sh#t about north vs south other than your dumbass. I graduated from Stanford probably before you were born, I’m 44 and retired. So get bent on me needing an education. (You’re the one that couldn’t spell veered). By definition there is no difference between a state local or federal police force (Or do I need to type the definition again?). Jurisdiction and location has nothing to do with this argument, you want to throw red herrings at your lack of understanding that semantics has nothing to do with Philando Castille And with statements like “Get your back on back to school!” and “Your lack of understanding the difference between state jurisdiction and federal jurisdiction is astounding!”, shows that not only are you a liar, that you really should consider a grammar primmer as well. You’re the one trying to prove a point, I only opined that Philando deserved what he got. Now go to bed kid.

          • Joatham Mcgainey

            The south sure do gives a s about the north and south. You should have been in SC after the confederate flag was taken down off the state house. Dozens of flag supporters sold record numbers of confederate flags to rebels at heart who never got over the civil war. Those rebels at heart provided very good business in buying a treasonous flag. But yes, no one gives an s about the north and south. Right. I suggest you take a trip down into the south on some of those construction jobs. There’s a lot of varmint about yankees and such floating around. I know because my brothers worked on those types of construction jobs.

            Second, what I originally said was that the problem is guns. Guns make people cocky and trigger happy when ordinary folks would just argue, makeup, and go about their business. So yes, the conversation did go to guns as I believe America has too much of them and make too free use of them!

          • Michael George Cowan

            Ahh… Now a decent convo! Being a northerner myself and having spent a great deal of my youth in Detroit I understand people’s contentions about the stars and bars, but being a constitutionalist I have appreciation for the true nature of the south’s reasons for secession and the civil war which was States Rights.

            What I do find curious is why people are more offended by the rebel flag now then they were when I was a kid. In the 80s The dukes of hazard was the show to watch, and I didn’t know a kid who didn’t have a general lee toy car, regardless of color. It’s also curious that the vast majority of the people who are most vocal about it are so young and have not experienced a percentage of the overt racism their grandparents did. I have some ideas but am not 100% sure.

            As far as guns go, there will never be an agreement on either side. I would simply suggest reading Thomas Jefferson’s opines on the subject, and seeing how hard our government is trying to take them away from us, would suggest to me that we need to be armed more now than ever. I could spout facts and figures but you surely have your own that counter mine or vice versa. But I will say that more people are stabbed than shot, yet no one is trying to ban knives. And when has banning anything worked in this country? Not sure about the construction comments, you might need to give me a bit of context.

          • Joatham Mcgainey

            “I have appreciation for the true nature of the south’s reasons for secession and the civil war which was States Rights”

            Not quite. I suggest you do a thorough research into the issue of states rights pre-civil war years. 90% of the time, whenever state’s rights was introduced, it was in the context of the South thinking that the North was going to implement measures to end slavery. And at that time, it was the wealthy planter-class who mostly dominated the southern politics. Therefore, state’s rights for the south was only implied when they feared federal intrusion in their slave markets. To begin, back when the constitution was being ratified (I am currently taking a constitutional history course), one of the arguments brought by the big planter states like Virgina, was the concern that the national government might over-ride state rights regarding slavery. One result of this was the 3/5 compromise, which said that a slave could be counted as 3/5 of a free person in votes. A second result was a compromise on the slave trade with a promise to extend it too 1808.

            Another example year later, Andrew Jackson, though a southerner himself, ran into contentions with John C Calhoun of SC, especially when Calhoun led the southern opposition to a tariff that was to be placed on the cotton industry (which affected the South more because they build their economy on the backs of slave-labor and cotton was the king of the southern trade with the North and England).

            Which is why, if you checked some of the old Southern newspapers printed at the time of Lincoln’s inauguration, much of headlines was filled with warnings of an “Abolitionist takeover” and “State’s rights will be trampled”. Some even took to calling Abraham Lincoln himself a “nigger” or “Nigger lover”. These were the sentiments which drove the south to rebel. The wealthy planter-class had done their job well. They had convince the other poor Southerners that the North wanted to come and destroy the Southern way of life, and were planning to make the slaves their equals. Well, that immediately got the south roused up and that’s why you had Southern state after Southern state pulling out of the Union, starting with South Carolina.

            In fact, the southern way of life led them to despise the blacks so much that when, for instance they took northern soldiers as prisoners, if they took any black soldier alive, they were never offered back in prisoner ex-changes. Which is Abraham Lincoln eventually suspended prisoner ex-changes. Because when Black Union soldiers were caught, they were never returned. The hatred was That strong.

            And then, after reconstruction, when Rutherford Hayes began removing federal troops from the South, the southern states Rushed to enact Black codes in order to keep the newly freed blacks in poverty and fear. And that never let up till the late 1950s and 60s. And can you believe what was the Southern response to federal civil rights rulings and laws? More meddling by the federal government into state’s rights. Other slang terms used were “oh the yankees are infringing on our rights again!”

            That was really the same argument they used to justify their succeeding from the union in 1860. State’s rights always had a murky past in America, and that’s why you can find only a small number of blacks who support this stand. To blacks, the only good things they ever received was from the federal level of government (eradication of slavery, eradication of the black codes and jim crow, granting equal right to vote under the law, welfare programs for the poor, etc).

            Which is why every republican should know, “If you want the black vote, it won’t be by preaching limited government.” To blacks,it was through “big government” that they were finally recognized as citizens. So, a republican should point to a lot of good things done by the states which helped blacks. That would probably sway the African American vote. So, in essence, that is why blacks are always voting solid democrat.

            Oh, you wanted to know more about the construction workers. Well, my oldest brother got a job on a construction site, and my next-oldest brother soon followed suit. The job was filled with mostly, to be frank, a bunch of southern rednecks (you would be surprise at how deep redneck sentiment ran down in the South), and they were totally full of racist propaganda. Calling my brother’s racist slurs sometimes, spewing out filth about yankees and northerners. Thankfully, my brothers left that job.

            To most southerners, the confederate flag isn’t just about state’s rights. To them, its also a defiance against the federal government. Look up when South Carolina put the flag over the dome of the state house; it was put up to protest desegregation. Because they have Never forgiven the North, you see, for prying their hands off the backs of the slaves during the civil war. Plus, that war destroyed the southern economy so you can imagine the resentment passed down from father to children. Of course, this is not a reflection of all southerners, but it is a reflection of many, if not most.

            I’ll leave you with something a police officer told me. I was participating on a ride along with SC deputy. We had stopped at a gas station and I went to the rest room. When I returned, He was deep in conversation with four black guys (three of them construction workers). And strangely enough, they were talking about race issues. The deputy was mentioning how he didn’t fully see racism until he moved down from NY to SC. It was down here that he fully saw the scope of things.

            “But I will say that more people are stabbed than shot, yet no one is trying to ban knives”

            Except, it should be remembered that a knife can be used to cut food, carve, all kinds of utility uses. Guns have only one use: to kill, whether man or beast.

          • Michael George Cowan

            Ease up on the length of your rants lol. Think Poe not Dostoyevsky. very well argued for slavery vs states rights I have a few doubts. Not so much on modern racism, I’ve lived in the south and will agree some areas are still back assward, but what I think a lot of today’s youth consider racism is actually not what I would, nor their grandparents. No matter what there will always be those who are ignorant and chose to use racial epithets, particularly on the web where I would likely think a great deal are just trolls trying to start sh1t. But guess what that’s not racism. It’s just ignorance, but it’s also freedom of speech, I would never deign to deny them their right to be stupid ever! No matter what, the adage about sticks and stones should be our ruling on that.

            The racism of previous generations would send most of today’s youth to a safe space permanently. When was the last time children were firehosed just for trying to go to school, where are the blacks only bathrooms, having to sit at the back of the bus, separate water coolers, jim crow laws, private hotels the list goes on and on. yes there is a wage gap, but when you factor in education numbers the gap is barely a blip and in the case of married college educated blacks the earnings gap is reversed. Blacks have lower sat score requirements to attend college (sorry that one is racist as hell.). as far as i’m concerned equality should be a 2 way street.

            Now slavery ended 150 years ago, there is no american alive who was a slave, in slavery’s history in the new world less than 1% of americans ever owned a slave, Approx. 400k slaves brought to the US and Canada over a 200 year time frame (slavery was legal there early on). over 1 million to south america and mexico. Slaves were treated like shit, but nonetheless were a valuable commodity.

            Now to be a dick, WW2 ended 75 years ago 6 million Jews, killed in hitler’s final solution. They were not a commodity, they were treated like pests, A few were enslaved and experimented on and tortured. the rest were shot, gassed, poisoned, hung and burned alive. no thought to age or sex. Much more than 1% of nazi’s were involved.

            too late i’m tired losing my train of thought, happens when you get old. finnish tomorrow

          • Michael George Cowan

            You still haven’t shown how police are paid to take a bullet.

          • Michael George Cowan

            United States Marshals Service carried guns since inception, in 1789. Now go cry on Canada’s shoulder.

          • Anthony Corbett

            You seriously believe that a cop should stand there and get shot at before returning fire? That is as bad as the ROE from Vietnam

          • richard

            thats more of a libertarian attitude……..conseritives arte usually the ones that like big governent and harsh drug laws

          • Carl W

            Conservatives pretend not to want big government. Truth is that they just use that as an excuse to pick and choose what parts of the government they like, and which parts they don’t. Good rule of thumb is, if it helps any person who makes less money than they do, that part of the government can be eliminated.

          • santiago

            What are the tenants of conservatism, do you know? It is funny you should mention harsher drug laws, which have become harsher with the rise of liberal governments, what a paradox no?

          • Carl W

            Isn’t it just a little suspicious the virtually every Police shooting is somehow justified? Like Police never make mistakes, never shoot first and ask questions later, never profile, never do anything wrong? None of us were there, so we are all just spectators, but the preponderance of evidence in many of these recent cases shows that the cops were in the wrong. Were the cops wrong in all of them. Very possibly, but not necessarily. People don’t report the actions of Police like this when their actions seem justified. The news will show that a shooting happened, it’s pretty straightforward (obviously justified), and no crazy news coverage. If the Police have other evidence that supports their officers, why don’t they just release it? If the office did nothing wrong, and was totally justified, what exactly is there to hide?

            It has been a month, and so far (I am including what I read in this article), there is literally no evidence that Castile was violent, he had no documented history of violence, and it appears that the cop just got scared of a black man and shot him. The Police have released nothing that casts even a little bit of doubt on the the version of events supplied by Reynolds. The article even nicely points out that this particular officer has been dealing with Castile for the last 5 years! They have supposedly arrested him over 50 times. In none of those 50 other times where he was stopped for similar infractions did he ever act violent, or cause an officer to shoot him, but this time was different. This time he was just going to shoot an officer with his child in the backseat. Why? They found no drugs, or anything illegal, and he had no reason to try and shoot that officer. If he knew that officer was going to overreact and shoot him I bet he might have gone for that gun instead of his ID though. I would have. Unfortunately, like Castile, I am not clairvoyant and I cannot see into the future.

            Look cops do a tough job, and I think the majority of them get a bad rap, but in this situation I cannot see how this officer acted appropriately. You keep asking for all this evidence that supports Castile’s/Reynold’s version, but why are we just blindly believing the Police? Why are you not asking what the cop can provide to prove his innocence? To you, we have to prove Castile was innocent and wasn’t going for a weapon (or that he even had a right to carry one), but then why not the cop? Civilians have to defend their actions against the Police, but apparently the same is not true for the Police, and the Police have always been the ones who set the narrative. Recently, thanks to advanced technology, civilians are fighting back by setting the narrative they want. I see this as no different than what the Police do, except the roles have now been reversed, and the Police are no longer able to set the narrative they want. They have to play defense, and the cop defenders are all upset about it. Get over it. At least the cop is still alive to try an prove his innocence. Bet Castile would like that opportunity, but he’s never going to get it.

          • Well written. Unfortunately logic is something that escapes some of these nitwits

          • msdennis

            Absolutely one of the very best comments I have read on this story!

          • SkivMarine

            Don’t be too sure that I’m NOT a Conservative. I am. Like All Lives Matter, I believe that all material evidence must be considered and examined before a final judgement can be made. What HIS problem seems to be is that he refuses to accept evidence that contradicts him, so he just changes the goal posts and demands different evidence. That is very much the same way Black Lives Matter conducts it’s business.
            So, All Lives Matter and Black Lives Matter seem to be cut from the same cloth; accept no evidence unless it supports OUR conclusion.

          • Joatham Mcgainey

            All lives matter? Really? Is that suppose to be an unbias group? Then why are white supremacist groups using your slogan All Lives Matter? Doesn’t add up at all!

          • ALL LIVES MATTER ✓ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ

            I am not worth talking to because I choose to wait for all the facts before jumping to a conclusion? Typical liberal not wanting to listen to facts. You would rather start a riot or kill police just like the rest of the animals? You disgust me!!!

          • SkivMarine

            Mister; I am so Conservative I make you look like a New Deal FDR Democrat. I have also worked BEHIND a badge in the past, and have been a very strong supporter of the police my entire life.
            And you have just shown once again why you are not worth talking to; you assume things and stick to those assumptions instead of taking a look at hard evidence that has been presented to you by a source that is actually ON YOUR SIDE.

          • santiago

            Police have been caught: Kidnapping, Assaulting, Stealing, accepting bribes to let killers go free, give bribes to other officials, cover up all manner of wrong doings, lying, and conspiracy in all the above. Why should any one in their right minds believe ANYTHING any Police officer or Federal Agent say?

          • Angela

            Well in that case we know what the public is capable of, so therefore we can not believe the thugs either.

          • santiago

            The truth usually lies in the middle.

          • Michael George Cowan

            So have politicians, businessmen, judges, bluecollar workers, newscasters and every type of person on earth, it does not make any difference, greed is just as blind as justice. So what makes what you say any more honest or truthful then what a law officer might say?

          • santiago

            The HUGE difference is that Police have the OBLIGATION, not only lawful, moral but also philosophical, to respect and enforce the law. Politicians in office also have that responsibility and obligation, Judges to, newscasters have the moral and Philosophical obligation as well.

          • Michael George Cowan

            Umm… You did not show any difference between them!

          • santiago

            You have to read again, and maybe think about it for like two months, maybe it will sip through.

          • Michael George Cowan

            We as Americans all have the responsibility to be honest and lawful regardless of our station in life.

          • santiago

            Yes, but you did not make a special oath nor are paid for it. Clearly you are not being able to reason beyond your contentions.

            The other day I was watching this guy supposedly go through what police go, they made exercises and the guy fired his gun at an “unarmed suspect” (trainer). He was all apologetical, and supposedly realised that he was wrong and should give the cops a break. I had to laugh at the foolish propaganda attempt, that only made my point for me: The guy was not a professional and he an unprofessional, reacted and fired a gun like the supposed professionals, that are supposedly trained. If you can not see these two differences, you are figuratively braindead, just like the example before this one.

          • Michael George Cowan

            Live by the gun die by it. Live a life of crime be prepared for the consequences.

          • Cyka Mcgee

            Lol you still don’t reach for permit while telling a police that you have a gun

          • SkivMarine

            That’s correct, you don’t. This doesn’t change that fact.
            I am neutral on this.
            People have said that he “didn’t have a permit”. Fact is; he DID.
            This does not matter at the moment. What matters is that he was shot. What matters is that an officer shot him.
            All we have at the moment is a video that starts mere seconds AFTER the fatal shots are taken, and proceeds to the time the man dies.
            It’s from that moment that we need further information as to what transpired BEFORE THE VIDEO STARTED.
            Did he reach for the permit while saying he had a gun? I don’t know, I wasn’t there. Neither were you.
            Do I think that’s what happened? I think it’s the most likely scenario. But I couldn’t bring that to a court of law without at least SOME form of proof, or at least some amount of due diligence in investigating the incident.
            This is why these situations GO to court, and are not decided here in opinion pieces in open forums. Nobody would get a fair trial, or hearing.
            And I will stand by this if the officer is right or wrong, if the victim is right or wrong. This is the way the system of LAW and ORDER is supposed to be. You don’t have to like it. You just have to follow it; because you may be involved in it yourself someday.

          • msdennis

            Very fair.

          • only if the officer is a scared little bitch to begin with

          • Cyka Mcgee

            Lol you are stupid

          • Even that wont be sufficient for some of these internet ya-who’s. …Ya cant fix stupid.

          • msdennis

            No just like Obama’s birth certificate.

          • msdennis

            Never give the Black man the benefit of the doubt even though it was proven that he held down a job working directly with children for over 12 years. No he has a part-time job robbing liquor stores…that’s more believable to many Whites.

          • Paul Hue

            Philando having a licence to carry is irrelevant. He never informed the officer of this fact, he had a gun sitting in his lap under his Tshirt and never informed the officer of this fact. He only mentioned that he was armed WHEN HE WAS ALREADY REACHING INTO HIS LAP, and it was the passenger — not him — who mentioned the licence to carry, and even then, way too late.

            On top of all that, Philando failed to comply with the fresh order issued by the cop in response to the very late revelation of the gun.

          • SkivMarine

            So, that must mean you were sitting in the car at the time and witnessed all of this. In that case you need to go to the relevant agencies involved and give a sworn affidavit detailing what you saw, and how the situation unfolded. Since you are the only other eyewitness, and a third party to the event, I’m sure they will give your testimony very serious consideration.

            Now that I’ve gotten that out of the way; how have you been able to determine that this is what happened? The investigation hasn’t even been completed yet! You are making what is legally called a supposition. You don’t have any facts to support what you have stated. And the video doesn’t support what the girlfriend stated on the scene, because the video only shows the events AFTER the shots were fired.
            You are just like the black lies matter group. You don’t want to wait for the truth to come out no matter what that truth might be.
            WAIT FOR THE INVESTIGATION TO FINISH. Then you and I will both know what happened.

          • Paul Hue

            Lavish Diamond has already admitted to all this on her videos.

          • Paul Hue

            You want ME to “wait until the investigation is complete”, while ignorant racists are out there spreading false information demanding that an innocent officer is arrested and rioting?

          • SkivMarine

            Yes, I do. Because to do otherwise is doing exactly what THEY are doing. Wouldn’t you say?

          • Paul Hue

            The difference between the anti-cop / pro-thug lynch mob is that I stick to the facts…and they have the federal government and some state and local governments on their side.

            If you get them to stop rallying around falsehoods, I’ll shut up about the facts.

          • Anthony Corbett

            MN does NOT require you to disclose possession of a weapon unless asked. Stupid ass law but thats the way it is in MOST states, only 14 require Immediate disclosure upon contact with LEO

          • Paul Hue

            I never said that Philando was violating the law by failing to disclose the existence and location of his weapon. But neither did the officer violate the law by shooting a robbery suspect for reaching for an open side arm after instructing him not to.

          • Kal Tourette

            Even if he didn’t have a permit, why Was he shot?

          • SkivMarine

            If he DIDN’T have a permit? Then he would have been in violation of Minnesota law, and he would have gone to jail.
            But you’re asking me why he was shot?
            I don’t know. I was not in the car, and I am not the officer involved. I am not an unbiased witness (the girlfriend IS a biased witness with an obvious agenda in mind), is there a dash cam video from the squad car? Are there independent witnesses? Was there another officer at the scene who can offer testimony? Has a shooting team and forensics team, and investigation team looked at the scene? Has all pertinent evidence outside the you tube video been collected? What are the autopsy results on the victim?
            You want an answer, but I can’t give you one without ALL of that information in my hands first.
            THAT is how you get the answers, and THAT is how justice is served.
            If the investigation comes out on the side of the victim, then the officer should be charged, and properly tried in a court of law like any citizen. If the investigation comes out on the side of the officer, then he will be justified in his use of deadly force, and will be allowed to return to his job.
            THAT is how it goes.

          • Paul Hue

            He was going to go to jail for: driving stoned, endangering a child, and possession of dope. The female passenger was going to jail too, for much of the same.

          • SkivMarine

            You sure seem to know an awful lot about what was going on about all of this, even though none of that information has been made public.
            And I do mean NONE of that information.
            You are repeating supposition. You are repeating rumors. You are doing exactly what you complain about when the Black Lies Matter bunch does exactly the same thing.
            NONE of you (either the ones on the officers side or the Castile’s side) are willing to let the investigation take place, and let the evidence point where it will.
            NONE of you are willing to be fair.
            NONE of you are good enough to live in this country and abide by the Constitution.
            I’m ashamed to call any of you fellow citizens, and I’m absolutely sorry I ever served this country to protect the likes of any of you.
            You are not worth my efforts. I’m done.

          • Paul Hue

            You should confine your vitriol to the black liars: they started this and are keeping it going. Because of their efforts — backed up by the federal government — promoting falsehoods, those of us who deal in the truth have a moral obligation to contribute to the public discourse. Without voices like mine, their would be just a loud and large, un countered lynch mob.

            Furthermore, people like me are completely dissimilar from the black liars. Al of the claims that we make come right from public facts. This entire phony controversy stemmed from the web video filmed by the frightful, criminally negligent mother in the passanger seat. If you bother to watch that and other videos of her in their entirety, you will find that her own mouth implicates Philando and herself, and her images show what appears to be the gun and his wallet, matching what has been released about what the officer says.

            On top of that, many photos of Philando have been released, as has the robbery video. You can see for yourself that the two appear to be the same person.

            Please go lecture those who deserve it: the black liars.

          • Paul Hue

            Why he was shot: because he reached for a gun sitting open on his lap that he did t tell the officer about until he was already reaching to his lap — and he never told the officer where the gun was located — then disregarded the new order to stop reaching down and instead put his hands in the air.

            The officer may have fired quicker because he already had matched Philando to the armed robbery, so when the gun appeared from under his Tshirt, the officer thought he’d confirmed his suspicion and now has a fugitive attempting to shoot his way out of prison.

            That is how Philando got himself shot.

        • 7EightyOne

          No…the sheriff said he didn’t apply for one that particular sheriff’s station. He later tweeted that Castile could have applied at another station.

        • Adam Hinchliff

          They do not teach that in every Carry class. I was never taught that at my class. Did you just make that up? Not saying it isn’t a good idea to do when you let a cop known you are carrying.

        • Kal Tourette

          The cop told him to get his papers. Civilians are not trained on how to not be killed by cops

          • Michael George Cowan

            The cop told him to not move. He never said get your papers.

        • Symon Mandawala

          Remember the officer were asking for driving li how would he reach it if the hands are on dashboard? He was not harry poter remember!

        • Hotep2you

          He stated to the officer that he had both the gun, and the permit to carry.

      • gbp91

        lets be clear here; HE DID NOT have a concealed carry permit……..regardless if he did he still did not follow direction of the officer, hence he was shot. the systemic criminal thug culture is the reason for this incident

        • randbee
          • jules2u

            The letter appears to show he had a permit, except what your article don’t show is the letter was dated almost a year ago, in 2015, things can happen in a year. Now just because they have a year old letter, does not mean he currently had a valid permit.

          • randbee

            Actually, before you responded to this post you should have researched the gun permit laws in Minnesota. New and renewal gun permits are valid for 5 years before you must apply again. So as seeing as this permit was issued in 2015 it seems as though Mr.Castile was well within his rights to carry his weapon. I could post the link here as well but I think you’ll appreciate it more by looking it up for yourself. 😉

          • jules2u

            Even thought they may be good for 5 years they can be revoked in that time. Guess what, Michigan has the same laws, but a person can have their permit revoked at any time during those 5 years, which would make the letter no longer valid.

          • jules2u

            Or do you think that if a person is convicted of a felony within those 5 years they would still have a valid permit? I understand the law, and things change from one year or even one month to the next, even a DV change would revoke the permit in most cases.

          • randbee

            So is essence your trying to convince everyone that his permit was revoked at the time of this incident, excuse me do you know him? Do you have the ability to see if his permit was revoked or not? If you know the gun laws of Minnesota you would know know they its not public information whether he had a valid permit or not, they won’t release that information until the investigation, is overs until that happens, HIS PERMIT WAS VALID. No go away internet crab.

          • jules2u

            What I am saying that you are failing to comprehend is a letter that would have been sent with a permit does not mean even one month later that the person still has a valid permit. It can be revoked at any time for several reasons. It does not mean it was valid at the time of this incident. It was valid in June of 2015, but no one knows for sure if it was still valid at the time of the incident. There are many reasons a person can get their permits revoked, and unless there is a valid permit, not just a letter that was sent with the permit, it does not prove anything. It merely proves that in June of last year he was sent a permit. But even minor things can get a permit revoked. If you do not understand that much, then that is your problem. The letter means little in the scope of things.

          • jules2u

            I don’t need any special powers to know that a person can have their permit revoked even a month after issue for one of several reasons. I am not stating it was, but I am stating the letter does not prove it was not either.

          • msdennis

            These people will try ANYTHING to dirty Mr. Castile’s name!

          • Carl W

            He has no felony convictions. That was actually stated in the article. Apparently your eyesight is affecting your vision to the point where you cannot clearly see things in a video, and you lack reading comprehension. The general rule of thumb is that you are welcome to your opinion just like anyone else, but at least research what you are talking about before you go saying things are blatantly false.

          • jules2u

            You do realize I am not talking about the individual in this case, but rather there are several reasons a person have have their CPL revoked, so a letter from several months before does not mean the license was still valid. Second, the video does not show what led up to the incident, only the aftermath. Maybe it is not my comprehension but yours that you should be concerned with. The concept was in response to, because there is a letter from last year stating the CPL was valid, that a year later it must still be valid, which may or may not be the case. Reality is there are many reasons that a CPL can be revoked, a month, a year, or at any time during the 5 years the license is provided to the individual. Unless there is current paperwork from the issuing authorities, there is no way to know if the CPL was still valid, because no one knows for sure what happened between the date it was issued and the date of the incident that could have revoked the CPL. The person I was responding too was assuming just because it was issued, lasts for 5 years, that it must still be valid, when in reality, there are many reasons it may not still be valid even a month after being issued.

          • Carl W

            So Castile no longer has a valid permit, but decides to tell the cop he is armed? If the cop saw he had a CWP in the system, then he has one. Why would someone carrying an illegal firearm, identify that they have one as soon as a police officer approaches his car? He wouldn’t, unless he in fact had a valid permit. Let’s pretend he doesn’t have a valid permit and still tells the officer (which makes no sense) that he has a gun. Why does the officer shoot him? Castile wanted to let the officer know that he had an illegal weapon and he was going to use it? Ridiculous. I mean if he planned to use a gun on the officer I highly doubt he would have warned the him beforehand. Even if his CWP was revoked, under what circumstances would ANYONE (seriously ANYONE!) tell a police officer that they are carrying a weapon, when their intention is to use it? You don’t warn a law enforcement officer that you are about to break the law. He would have just shot him, end of story. That’s not what happened.

            None of this even touches the fact that the officer in question has had NUMEROUS run-ins with Castile before, for a variety of reasons. None of those interactions were violent, and some of those interactions happened after he had the CWP. Even if this officer never contacted him after he had a CWP, don’t officers take notes? I know the ones where I live do. Regardless of your position on him having a valid CWP, there can be no argument that at some point it was valid. So this man, who has never been violent and has a long history with this police department, all of a sudden becomes a threat, for what reason? Why is today the day he is going to be violent? Why would he even go get a valid CWP for any period of time, if he was going to illegally carry and use a weapon anyway?

            Your version of events, or possible events, doesn’t add up. I don’t just side with civilians automatically, I side with the version of facts that make the most sense. That police department knows how everything looks right now, so if they have a different version of events/facts, why haven’t we heard it? “Protecting the integrity of the investigation” is a bunch of horse ***t. Other police departments have released videos prior to a trial to show that they have nothing to hide. So exactly what are they hiding?

          • jules2u

            So because it was stated on a video it must be fact? The reports have told a bit different story of the day’s events. Not everything is always as it appears when it is first released, but I know people don’t want to wait for the whole story to come out. I never stated if he did or did not have a valid permit, just that the letter does not prove that he had a valid permit at the time he was pulled over.

          • Carl W

            So far your defense of the Police officer is:

            1. The whole story could be different once we get all the facts. (When exactly is that going to happen?!)

            2. Just because a document has been provided showing he had a valid CWP, doesn’t mean it was valid at the time.

            Your statements don’t answer these simple questions:

            1. Why would someone carrying an illegal firearm, identify that they have one as soon as a police officer approaches his car?

            2. Why would someone warn an officer that they have a weapon (legal or otherwise) if they plan to use it on him?

            3. Why would someone go get a valid CWP for any period of time, if he was going to illegally carry and use a weapon anyway?

            4. A person who has never been violent, and has a long history of non-violent interaction with this
            police department, all of a sudden becomes a threat? Why is today the day that person is going to be violent?

            5. If the Police have a different version of events/facts, why haven’t we heard it?

            I will go ahead an answer for you:

            1. They wouldn’t.

            2. They wouldn’t.

            3. They wouldn’t.

            4. Motive. That important piece of information that no one can seem to provide. Not even a guess as to the motive. He just lost his mind that day and decided this was the day. Maybe you are suggesting that all black men eventually become violent for reasons that cannot be explained? Not even a GUESS at the motive! Oh…well…um…it was probably because….NOTHING!

            5. The million dollar question. I mean it’s only been almost 2 months. That’s definitely not long enough for the Police to provide an explanation for their Officer’s behavior, or even a potential motive (or description) for Castile’s actions that caused him to be shot.

            I realize that am asking for a lot, saying we need answers after it has only been 2 months…I am just asking for too much. Maybe when they are done patrolling for other “dangerous” black men, they will get around to providing an answer.

          • jules2u

            Glad you know the thought process of every one involved based on the video. Nice to know because it was stated he did this or that it must be true, even though the officer told him not to move. You Never move a gun until the officer tells you to, and then they will often tell you to get out of the car so they can secure the weapon. But since you know the thought process of every person and how they will react or act in every situation, I am glad you can judge the situation 100%.

          • jules2u

            As for a few of your statements, a person can obtain a CPL, do something to have it revoked and still carry one. Assuming that people wouldn’t do something does not always mean they would not do something.

          • msdennis

            First some people were fighting tooth & nail to deny Mr. Castile has/had a permit. Now throwing in there that there is a good chance that it is/was revoked. Can a brother get the benefit of possibly being a good guy??

          • jules2u

            Understanding that the letter is not proof of anything other than in 2015 when the letter was issued the CPL was valid. Reality is, anyone can have their license revoked within a month for certain reasons.

          • jules2u

            Did I say he did? No, I was providing an example as to why a person would have a permit revoked, even being accused of a domestic violence situation can get your CPL revoked, even if not convicted.

        • randbee

          and just like we don’t know what he followed, YOU don’t either. Don’t assassinate the deceased character’s for your own personal enjoyment. Please don’t speak on issues you know NOTHING about.

          • gbp91

            Clueless

          • Tracy

            So he deserves to be killed….according to you because he belongs to a thug culture? Racist much?

          • gbp91

            you missed my point? most likely you are the racist one. if anyone carries a gun and does not follow the direction of an officer you are going to shot. no officer is taking a bullet or even chance it. if you follow what you are told your chance of being shot goes down 100 %

          • Tracy

            You have no evidence that he didn’t follow directions other than the thug culture

          • gbp91

            the video was clear that he was not following direction? and the gun was in sight of the officer. the police are not going to wait and see if you shoot first or not. rules of engagement are when the officer feels his/hers life is in immediate danger of serious harm or death. that is different for every officer, hence ppl need to follow direction immediately. hope that helps you…

          • Tracy

            No,the video showed nothing regarding him refusing to follow directions. There is no evidence the gun was in the cops sight. The cop had no right to kill him.

          • gbp91

            As I have stated before, if you have contact with police don’t reach for antrying especially if you are armed legally or not. The officer does not have to risk being shot first before we shoot. Please read supreme court case dealing with , graham v. Conner

          • santiago

            Doesn’t have to but they should, it is what supposedly the job entails. The concept does not allow for a police officer to show more force than the perpetrators, that is abuse of force, you are dealing with civilians, not an invading army.

          • gbp91

            are you out of your mind? use of force by the police is not a 50/50 deal. whatever force a suspect uses or attempts will be met with a much higher level of force. no cop is wait for the bad guy to shoot first. that is a sad way of thinking

          • Tracy

            Except the driver didn’t use force

          • gbp91

            he had a gun and was reaching for it…….that is deadly force…….wake up, or are you just brain dead

          • Tracy

            How do you know? There is no evidence to support your claim.

          • Adam Hinchliff

            There is no evidence to support your claim. Why are you so arrogantly ignorant??

            Rhetorical numb-nuts; your biased.

          • gbp91

            his girlfriend in the car told the officer he was armed but claimed he was reaching for his ID. prior to the being stopped, the officer recognized him as a robbery suspect from a few days prior. there is video of him pointing a gun at a store clerk. this is fact. your the numb nut here. being a liberal sheep is no way to go through life. shows what a coward you are

          • msdennis

            There is no proof that he was the robber! And LE seems to be doubling down on that now.

          • santiago

            On the contrary, your way of thinking is authoritarian. Police should not use overwhelming force they have the backing of the state already. Disproportionate force is not a quality for police in a democracy or modern civilisation. If soldiers in Iraq can hold their fire until they are fired upon I am sure police can do the same and in reality, should be leaning more towards martyrs than aggressors, they are to SERVE others FIRST then themselves.

          • gbp91

            no sir, the police are not obligated to wait till they are fired upon before they shoot. that is not the policy of the american peace officer. deadly force is that force used when the officers feels his life or the life of another is in immediate danger of serious bodily harm or death. the supreme court has ruled on this issue. your comments are predicated by a lack of knowledge

          • santiago

            I believe that you are confused, or maybe I was not clear enough. This authoritarian disease, no matter if it is lawful is immoral and goes against the very principles of the DOI and the constitution, I do not care about a corrupt ruling, and neither should you.

            Police are there to serve, they are SERVANTS. And while they SERVE, they should do so knowing that their MASTERS, pay for their lives, thus the LIVES of their masters are worth much more, than theirs.

            Also, Police enjoy the benefit of having equipment, man power, strength of the state, etc… So they have to be EXTRA vigilant of their actions, since ANY amount of force shown above that of a suspect is immediately disproportionate and thus abusive.

            The problem is the mentality of police that they hold the authority, but that is not true, civilians are the authority and police are just the extension or the representation of that authority, they have none by their own, it is not theirs, since the authority is not given away. That Hubris they display is because they have been led to believe they are heroes because they put their lives in harms way and every time one dies in the line of duty a parades thrown in his name. Well construction workers that also serve the public die more often at the job and they do not get the parade.

            Police are paid to do the job which inherently has a risk, and Police want to transfer that risk to civilians that do not get paid, but that actually pay for others to take the risk, so they are getting duped, by those that are “sworn” in to take that risk, you see in reality up IS up NOT down. What is even worse is that when police shoot first, the abuse of power becomes two fold and much more criminal in nature, since supposedly protection of the lives they serve is also part of that job.

            Now in REALITY the victim in a rape or any other crime is can not be the perpetrator as well, since there would be no crime, so when a police man shoots a 12 year old boy for having a toy gun, it is obvious who the perpetrator is and it is not the victim, but all of these eludes your authoritarian mentality because it suits your needs, be them emotional, political or material. Your hubris that generates the false notion that “YOU ARE THE LAW” or the authority has eliminated any common sense.

            I invite you to analyse the shooting data and police killings by country and you will see that it is completely disproportionate with comparison to other countries, like where i live, where there are worst criminals and the police do not resort to such violence against the population, if they did they would be hung by a post or burned alive by the people that pay them. In other countries with less crime the same thing is true and you can analyse the data with many filters, like: Violent crime, population density, police force density, etc… and you can take them together, buy capita only, etc.. and you will clearly see that the only two countries that have the amount of disproportionate shooting and abuse of force are the US and Israel. And this disproportionality is not even comparable because the gap is to wide. A cop is no different than a trash collector and collecting trash is more dangerous, since more trash collectors die and they do a much better and useful service.

          • gbp91

            well that was a long response, but if you dont like it here? then move to another country, our way life and our system of justice is fairer for all. police lives matter just as much as anyone else. i am sorry but after reading your position it is clear to me you need to see a Dr for your mental disorder

          • santiago

            What kind of idiotic response is that? You did not even notice your lack of common sense or authoritarian BS, and you tell me I have a mental disorder, when your thought process is completely deviant. Your loser illogical response to move is exactly what I refer to. Your way of life has been mined by such authoritarian stupidity. Instead of fixing what is clearly wrong and and is destroying your country, you prefer to put you head in the sand because the cognitive dissonance it generates is to much for you to bear.

            The best thing you can do is to see things for what they really are.

            I bet you have made all of this idiotic prejudices and believe I am democrat or some kind of lunacy like that, but that is far from the truth. I am conservative that loves my liberty, but have managed to see and accept what is happening. The police state is a reality and you prefer to ignore it and give shitty response like if you do not like it get out, and confuse concepts. Police Lives matter yes, but while in the job, those lives that they are suppose to serve and protect matter more because it is their job!! I do not care about the BLM counter movement, or any other irrational divisive movement.

            BLM is just the response to an authoritarian government that does not care for any of it’s citizens including the middle class which was the heart of the USA. The more power you give them the more they will take, history has proven this, read some of the founding fathers, read the Declaration of Independence, and notice what they say. They recognised this historical fact, the more power he government has, the more it wants and is never satisfied and at first victims of abuse are the most “at risk” minorities then comes the middle class, and then it is the end of the country.

            People of all kinds and ideologies have been saying it for years and now they are crying and no one listens, and that will be the doom of the USA, not an over reaching government, not subversive movements like BLM and militias, but the lack of response all due to preconceived notions and divisive mentality.

            People like you that believe everything is ok and everyone else is wrong, and who could have done something, anything, and did nothing will wake up one day and realise that your country has been destroyed and that you had more in common with the PC nation after all.

          • gbp91

            your misguided belief that there is something wrong with the police is nonsense. police are NOT over extending their authority. they are keep society safe from a criminal thug belief system that is trying to destroy a civilized society. there is no way that a police officer is going to give you one ounce of credibility. your position is lame. the boy who was shot because of the toy gun is an example of poor parents and being part of the culture that does not think. do not enable these people. please learn the definition of individual responsibility…….you and the culture need it….

          • santiago

            Maybe, are you? Proportional does not mean 50/50. What is sad is thinking that society will change based on the rules YOU set, that is called TYRANNY and TYRANNY only generates more violence, which in turn TYRANTS want to counter with more TYRANNY. Police has to adapt not the other way and if you think adapting is trying to enforce more harshly, you are wrong, it is the same thing, using TYRANNY. Sadly Authoritarians never realise this and end up dead or in exile, and he whole nation screwed, just because you want to impose your way on others by the use of force.

            Sadly, police in the US have been given to much leeway, and have enjoyed impunity for their criminal actions when it should be the other way around. If police commits a crime, police should get double the penalty, and if police kill an innocent person, manslaughter should not be an option, it is murder. Why? Because Police also enjoy the strength of the state, which in the case of the US, the Government, has been deified, which is sad, because starting from the President all the way to the trash man, they are all SERVANTS and not self servants, since one can not be the ones own master and servant at the same time. Serving is a vocation, you do not have it? then ->>>>>

          • twojakes

            you really are retarded nobodies going to reach for a gun if a dumb cop already has out.

          • gbp91

            the gun was on his lap in plain view. watch the video again……i saw it there

          • Tracy

            No the video did not show a gun

          • gbp91

            i saw it? why are you not speaking the truth? the man was armed

          • Tracy

            There was no gun shown on his lap.

          • twojakes

            he had a cpl stupid he was SUPPOSE TO BE ARMED HE TOLD THAT DUMB COP THAT.

          • gbp91

            The CPL claim has been proven false sparky. Castile was a suspect in a armed robbery and reached for his gun because he knew he was caught that is what stupid thug criminals do. You on the other hand are just plain simple and probably support a inane liberal agenda. Have to laugh at you.

          • Tracy

            There was no gun on his lap

          • twojakes

            that’s what makes the cop look bad stupid.

          • santiago

            That is just plain wrong, the ROE have to change, civilians are more important than paid government workers, after all they are being paid, supposedly have a calling, enjoy equipment and disproportionate strength, basically like every bully.

          • twojakes

            fortunately people aren’t as stupid as you.i wished you were that cops lawyer so the whole world can see how stupid you are.your dumb ass just made a case for him.(castile).

          • santiago

            Police should have clearer ROE, they should not be able to shoot until fired upon or the perpetrator firing at a third party “.” Blue Live Matter less when they are in uniform it is part of the job, if you do not have what it takes, don’t be a cop.

          • twojakes

            what cpl holder has ever pulled a gun on a cop?

          • Michael George Cowan

            Don’t have to be black to be part of the thug culture. That’s why it’s called culture, culture is not defined by race but by common social ideology. Triggered much?

        • Tracy

          He did have one.

        • Melinda Ralston

          Yes the man had a permit to carry a weapon. Its in all the news reports.. He should have told the officer before he went reaching for his wallet tho and then gone from there

        • santiago

          There is a systemic problem, no doubt, more than one actually. The Hubris in the supposed “authority” is the most dangerous one.

      • John Baker

        I you are known to the police AND they know that your drivers license is revoked… You WILL be pulled over. If you look at Castile’s arrest record, he had been arrested many times for driving with a revoked or suspended license AND for not having insurance.
        I’ll not call him a lying crackhead, but I will call him someone who does not act responsibly.

        • Tracy

          So he deserves to die?

          • gbp91

            Fight with a cop in possession of a gun? What do you think will happen

          • Tracy

            He didn’t fight with the cop

          • Paul Hue

            Philando didn’t “fight with the cop”, that’s true. Instead he had his pistol in his lap and never even informed the cop that he was armed until he was already reaching into his lap, where his gun and wallet were located together. Compounding that deadly mix, he ignored the fresh orders of “Hands up!” that the officer issued as soon as Philando mentioned the gun and his girlfriend blurted out that he was licenced to carry.

          • Outtahereasap

            If it was in his lap unconcealed that is a violation of the permit. Conceal carry means concealed. He should not have it in his lap. Crazy and a definite threat to the officer. No wonder this went bad.

          • Paul Hue

            He didn’t fight the cop, but he disobeyed orders in the very dangerous situation of having a gun in his lap. No word on his possible match to the armed robber.

          • twojakes

            he had a c.p.l STUPID does your ignorant ass know what that is?

          • Amy Widmer

            She’s an idiot!! ????????

          • Paul Hue

            She’s worse than an idiot. She’s a criminal.

          • Paul Hue

            Doesn’t matter if Philando had a CPL. He never informed the officer of this fact, as required (his accomplice passenger did), never informed the officer that he was armed UNTIL HE WAS ALREADY REACHING INTO HIS LAP WHERE THE GUN WAS SITTING next to his wallet in his front pocket, and never informed the officer of the location of his gun.

            The officer didn’t shoot Philando for having a gun. The officer shot him for having the gun in his lap and never mentioning this fact as he reached into his lap!

          • gbp91

            no CPL sparky……..

          • Youre an idiot. were you there?

          • gbp91

            no i was not there, but the reports are clear. this thug was recognized by the officer who had photos of him robbing a store with a gun. the photos are clear that castile is the suspect. castile had a long record of criminal behavior and as tragic as a death is……..this is good for society

          • randbee

            They already confirmed he was not the suspect for that robbery. You are in fact an unknown internet racist like many people who troll this thread spewing your ignorant one-sided rhetoric. Long criminal behavior such as traffic violations? stfu. You people are desperately trying to justify this man’s death because you DON’T understand it yourself. Confused ass racist.

          • gbp91

            your angry comments show your lack of intelligence and that equals bigoted and racist behavior. castile was a criminal and was recognized as the robbery suspect. further, his girlfriend was smoking weed with a 4 yr old in the car? unmitigated……your position is weak

          • randbee

            no not angry, just intolerant to pure racist ignorance. I have no position this isn’t a debate stfu. It’s a matter-of-fact of what’s RIGHT & WRONG. You do NOT know this man personally, his family, or ANYTHING about him, yet you are clearly spreading lies, saying he was the “robbery suspect”. Nobody ever said him smoking weed in front of a 4 year old wasn’t wrong, HOWEVER, whenever things like this happen, IDIOTS like you start the grand destruction of morale. “Well he was pulled over __ many times…He smokes marijuana…He looks like a thug..” STFU!! Instead of going incognito online hiding your racist intent like most of the trolls on this feed, GO GET A DAMN LIFE.

          • gbp91

            grow up, your still a very lame person……..castile was a criminal and failed to obey the commands of a LEO…….he caused his own demise.

          • Paul Hue

            You don’t know Philando, either. The police officer suspected Philando was the robber, but no, the police investigators had not named Philando as a suspect prior to this officer seeing somebody who looked identical to the robber.

            At the time of this stop, Philando was committing at least three times and was going to be arrested.

          • Anthony Corbett

            I have seen that the officer suspected that he might be the suspect, based on Video and information that he had from the actual scene of the Robbery. I do know that there are Many “Facts” that his Girlfriend stated were in-fact not true. I do know that procedure for dealing with a concealed permit holder ( once possession is determined ) is to take a defensive stance, remove the person from the vehicle and secure the weapon. as a Concealed permit holder he would have known how to deal with LEO, reaching toward the weapon is NOT the way to deal. None of us know if he was told NOT to reach, all we have at this point is a video shot after the fact.

          • Mike Smith

            “pure racist ignorance” This is a huge problem with a large segment of the black community.

            1) Lose the entitlement mentality.

            2) Accept that society oniy owes you opportunity, but you still have to work hard to realize your potential.

            3) Accept that laws are for everyone, that means each and every one of you, disrespect those laws at your own peril.

            4) Accept that your potential is limited by IQ, and that those with an IQ in the eighties, ninties, hundred, will not be capable of being engineers, physicists and so on. So far, there is nothing society at large can do to change the deck each of us is dealt.

          • fass52

            Sounds more like your IQ is limited. You can spell good though, but that’s about all! Seems to me that you think you’re entitled to stereotype and label people they way you see through your white man vision. Must be very boring inside your brain.

          • Outtahereasap

            Well isn’t that special, while you sit there and stereotype police!!!!

          • fass52

            Your comments show your lack of intelligence. Nothing you’ve said makes any sense at all. Ooops! Your hood slipped off in public!

          • Paul Hue

            Had Philando properly complied and informed the officer about the location of his gun, he and his passenger were going to be arrested for the various crimes that they were in the process of committing: driving while high, possession of drugs, child endangerment.

          • Anthony Corbett

            Actually in MN you have NO duty to report the possession of a Licensed firearm unless asked. Only 14 states require that you disclose possession of a firearm Immediately without being asked.

          • Mike Smith

            If if there is no duty is disclose, doing so is the prudent thing to do.

          • Anthony Corbett

            I completely agree, I’m not sure why it’s not mandatory to disclose in EVERY state

          • Outtahereasap

            Wrong. Conceal carry permit is for a concealed weapon in the car or on your person. Exposed weapons in your lap are not part of the permit. You have to have an ‘open carry’ permit for that.

          • fass52

            You get that same person who is just as psycho as you to like your comments, and it’s the only one?

          • Paul Hue

            There are only a few reasonable people left; your Black Lynch Mob is very popular. Congratulations.

          • Outtahereasap

            Added to that he has a gun in his lap….unconcealed, a violation of the permit.
            Possibly driving down the road like that? WHy? He pulled it out and laid it in his lap during the stop, why? That is just crazy.

          • Paul Hue

            The police did not have the name Philando Catile to associate with the robbery, if that is what you mean “he was not a suspect”. However, Philando looked just like the robber, which is why the cops pulled him over…and turned out to have a gun in his lap, shoes similar to that of the robber. and the same brand of cigarettes stolen in the robbery.

            The police have issued no further information about the status of Phlando with regard to the robbery.

            Furthermore, Philando was at the time of the shooting committing three crimes: driving while impaired, possession of an illegal substance, and endangering a child. His passenger was committing similar or identical charges. They were both going to get arrested, and the poor child taken into custody. That gave Philando reason to be nervous and perhaps even ready to shoot an officer, especially if he was the robber.

          • karen

            Isn’t that what your doing???

          • Outtahereasap

            The officer recognized him as a possible suspect in a recent robbery. That is a fact. A gun in the drivers lap is illegal. ILLEGAL. That is a fact. Watch your nasty potty mouth on who you call racist. Just because you don’t like the facts, doesn’t give you a right to label someone supplying facts a racist. Go research conceal carry permit laws and educate yourself on the matter. That is where the ignorance resides in your spew. Justifying the outcome is not what is at issue. However, it is plain that you have chosen to justify the behavior of an individual high on drugs, endangering a child, and driving around with a gun in his lap. Very admirable.

          • fass52

            You say he’s a known criminal, but also allowed to conceal and carry? You need togo somewhere and sit down with that simple bull crap!

          • gbp91

            excuse me? castile did not have a license to carry a gun……verified and proven over and over. he also was the suspect in a robbery and that was the reason for the police to stop him…….verified again…….similar to mike brown robbing a store then assaulting a police officer and lost his life. brown was a long time criminal verified and proven. what is wrong with you?

          • Pam Dworshak

            He did have a concealed carry permit, he only had misdemeanors and petty misdemeanors. He was not the person who robbed the store, he looked like him in someways giving the officer the right to stop him and ID him. He made the mistake of not doing what was asked of him. Just that simple. Concealed means concealed, not sitting on your lap. He did nothing right. He wasn’t a bad guy, he didn’t remember his training or was worried because there was weed in the car and a little child, that is a no no, and if he was high, and driving it would have been his first felony, and one charge would have been child endangerment.

          • Outtahereasap

            Sorry but he was a bad guy….considering he had the gun in his lap illegally and thus constituting a threat to everyone around him, plus he had repeatedly endangered the public during traffic violations, plus the weed and the child.
            Not a good guy.

          • Pam Dworshak

            He only had misdemeanors and petty misdemeanors. You can get your permit to carry concealed, I’m not sure if Minnesota has open carry, but he didn’t have a open carry permit, and it was on his lap, gbp91, wants him to be a evil SOB, when he wasn’t he was a man that liked his weed, liked to not keep up his car like he should, drive fast, and made the dumbest mistake of his life, by moving when he was ordered not to move.

          • fass52

            Look at the video again. The cop lied when he said he told Castile not to move. He asked for Castile’s DL. When Castile told him he had a weapon he opened fire right after. You don’t get to have your own version of the story. Why did Castile need DLs in the first place while he wasn’t even driving? You may be a good cheerleader for the police, but an investigator you’re not.

          • Pam Dworshak

            When I first saw this story, and saw what kinda person Castile was, I did something I don’t do right away on either the cop or the person shot, but on this I demonized the cop. I did it before any facts were in. If a cop is in the wrong I feel the punishment should be worse then if a citizen had committed the same crime. As far as your info on the cop asking for his DL we don’t hear the cop saying it, we do hear him saying I told him not to reach for it I told him to get his hand off from it. You only hear her saying that he asked for his DL. The cop sounded more upset about the shooting then the GF. If you do some research on the cop also you will see he is a good guy to. People make mistakes, and sadly Castile made a mistake. Go and watch the video better also, he was driving the video is a reversed mirror image, go to 09 on the video.Go to 29 and you can hear the cop speaking. I guess a investigator you are not.

          • fass52

            See? Your comment says you’re white, because Black people don’t have the privilege to get all emotional in front of the police. She stayed calm and made sure to not give that policeman an excuse to kill her too, because no witness besides the 5 year old would be a cake walk for that murderer. And no, I will not do research on that cop. Some cops have medals and badges and were later on found to be child molesters or have committed some other crime and were fired and asked to return the medals. You claim you are unbiased, but it seems to me that you are trying to find every excuse you can to justify the murder of this young man. It’s the same pattern I see all the time. The only time I didn’t see it is when those two Black caps were charged with murder for firing into a fleeing white suspect’s car and killing the white child inside the car. No one jumped up and said anything about getting what he deserved for breaking the law. Sure, that cop who murdered Mr. Castile will not be charged as always when the victim is from the same class as Mr. Castile, but your argument for the “no charge” is dead in the water. He’s going to do something like that again. You just watch and see, and please don’t forget to do your research when it happens.

          • Pam Dworshak

            This has nothing to do with color, I’m a human being, and I hope you are also. Before you really go by his girlfriends word you should maybe check her out, even what her own mother has to say about her. If you take the time to check her out, then you tell me what you think about her little girl being in the car with her, or her has a mother even. The only reason you think white people don’t have cop related things happen is because they don’t make the headlines.

          • Anthony Corbett

            He was known to have many Traffic violations, Only Felonies and Gross Misdemeanors will restrict the purchase of a handgun or the ability to to get a concealed Carry Permit

          • Steven Sumner

            This isn’t actually true. The issuing department or SO will make the determination on whether or not to issue the permit based on background information. Felonies and gross misdemeanors are just some of the automatic disqualifiers.

          • Jim

            Too bad Castile didn’t get to his gun first and you weren’t there. That would be good for society.

          • gbp91

            did you really say that? castile getting to his gun first would be good? if that is what you meant then you are pathetic coward…..

          • Jim

            Looks who’s calling people a coward, on the Internet. You crack me up.

          • gbp91

            again sparky, castile getting his gun first is not good. castile was a mope……and seemingly you are too

          • Jim

            OOOh You are so smart and tough, a real keyboard warrior.

          • Jim

            Very droll. Lets go back and talk about you being a murderer sympathizer and an internet coward.

          • Steven Sumner

            What are you talking about? If Castile was going for his gun then the shooting was justified. How does saying “too bad Castile didn’t get to his gun first” make any sense?

          • gbp91

            still a mope i see. one day you will realize that society is not going to tolerate thug behavior. the game is up you douch

          • Paul Hue

            None of us were there, including all the rioters. We all have access to many facts, which prove that Philando and his passenger were at the time of the shooting committing several crimes that were going to have them arrested and the poor child taken into protective custody. We also know that Philando had a gun in his lap, next to his wallet in his front pocket, and never mentioned the gun until he was reaching into his lap, never mentioned the location of the gun at all, and disobeyed the new orders to put his hands up.

          • richard

            with so many cops in the states shooting civilians and unarmed civilians…….i be a little jumpy

          • Paul Hue

            Cops only shoot a few hundred people annually, and just about every one of them — including every one of the Black LIe examples — is either commiting a criminal act, or in the process of some extreme act of dangerous stupidity. Even in this case, Philando was in the process of committing at least three crimes, and with a police officer in his window, he knew he was about to go to jail.

            Philando was driving while high, in possession of weed, and endangering a child. The woman in the passenger seat was also committing similar or identical crimes, so she was going to jail, and her poor daughter was going into protective custody.

            While there is not “so many cops in the states shooting civilians”, there is an epidemic of this sort of dangerously and criminally irresponsible behavior, especially in areas such as where Philando was pulled over, which was a few blocks from a robbery a few days previos committed by somebody who exactly matches Philando’s appearance.

          • gbp91

            richard? no need to be jumpy……..obey the law

          • Amy Widmer

            Yes, if he in fact reached for his gun-dah?! ????????????????????

          • Tracy

            Not acting responsibly and reaching for a gun are 2 different things. There is no evidence he reached for a gun.

          • Paul Hue

            We know as a fact that the gun was in his lap, that his wallet was in his front pocket next to the gun, and that he never informed the officer of the location of the gun, and only informed the officer that he was armed AFTER HE WAS ALREADY REACHING FOR HIS WALLET, according to the star loudmouthed witness, his girlfriend and accomplice in possessing marijuana, driving while impaired, and child endangerment.

          • fass52

            First you said the gun was in his lap then you said the gun was near his front pocket where his DL was. The gun could not be in 2 places at once, but I guess if you want to find every reason why Castile should be dead then I guess that works for you and the police. (side eye)

          • Paul Hue

            The position of his gun was in his lap, which was also fairly touching the bulge in his front pocket made by his wallet. HIs motion to get his gun or his wallet would necessarily have been into the same area. Now do you understand? You can see blowup photos from that dreadful mother’s own incriminating camera: the same image showing the gun also shows the wallet bulge beside it.

            The fact that he was an identical visual match for the armed robbery suspect and DID NOT INITIALLY INFORM THE OFFICER OF THE GUN then announces that he is armed as he is reaching into his lap where suddenly the movement of his T-shirt exposes his gun, while the lunatic mother blurts out “he has a license to carry” surely sent a rush of justified fear into the officer, who knows how responsible, law-abiding gun owners behave during traffic stops.

          • fass52

            All of your “therefore” and “thus follows” is only your own opinion of what happened. You weren’t there and the police of every department makes statements that should be questioned and not taken for actual facts. This has been proven many times. Case in point, officer Encino has been fired and is being charged with perjury and falsifying a police report. There are many, many more cases just like this of police making false statements. All of the policemen on the scene in Chicago where Laquan McDonald was murdered have been fired for the same thing and the one who fired the shots killing Mr. McDonald is being charged with murder so your claim that these guys are angels in paradise is false also. The fed has taken over many local police departments across this whole nation. I believe there are more than 100 police departments taken over by the fed. Much of this happened before Loretta Lynch was appointed AG of the DOJ. So your position of always taking what the police say as actually fact has been proven to be wrong time and time again. Although Castile’s murderer may not ever be charged your position on it is dead in the water. I’m sure you think that Castile and his GF were out to commit some kind of crime. It’s how your mind works. You are wrong on that also.

          • Paul Hue

            Every since the Black Lynch Mob formed a couple of year ago, police chiefs are under enormous pressure to fire and even charge innocent cops in order to keep the feds from charging in and destroying their own careers, as happened in Ferguson. THEREFORE, any firings and arrests of officers being target tined by the Black Lie movement cannot be taken as unambiguous evidence that the cops were actually wrong.

            We know that “witnesses” often lie, as has been proven over and over again, such as in the Ferguson case. The cops are not perfect angels, but you and I would both rather deal with them than any of these criminals who have become Black Lie martyrs. Every one of these cases demonstrates that the only people who ever die in these instances are people who encounter the police when they are about to be arrested for something else, and then make two or more outrageously defiant actions against reasonable police orders, the only exceptions being that one child in Cleveland who was the victim of criminally negligent parents who are drug dealers.

          • fass52

            Black lynch mob? I’ll bet you lose sleep waiting for those phantom zombies who live in your head to come and attack you in the dark, huh? And now I’m at that point where I finally realize I’m conversing with a real nut job! You need medical attention, Paul!

          • Paul Hue

            The phrase “Black Lives Matter” is absurd and false. “Black Lynch Mob” is much closer to the reality of what this effort is based upon and attempting to accomplish: it is a lynch mob based on black people believing in phantom racism and phantom police misconduct, while ignoring the very real epidemic of black misbehavior, which every one of these incidents exemplifies.

          • Outtahereasap

            Well, some do chant various violent verses….Rollem up and fry EM pigs….or whatever. They sniper shoot officers. They run over them with vehicles. Yes, they clearly have a lynch mob agenda….not phantom.
            Mr Hue has done a rational and well detailed reality of what is in play. Nothing in his explanations would be considered nutty. Surely you can come up with something more intelligent to bolster your hate….such as a specific instance.
            Your best effort is to state everyone is lying including the photos. BTW, a lap and front pocket are nearly one in the same…due to proximity. The lighting will make a difference as to what the officer might be able to see clearly.

          • fass52

            Those are all white people who try to run over cops with their cars. You try to blame that on #BLM while they are always walking and chanting unarmed! Like I said… Those phantoms that only exist in your head! You paranoid geek!

          • Paul Hue

            Philando was in the process of committing the following crimes:
            1. Driving while high.
            2. Possession of dope.
            3. Child endangerment for having a child in a car driven by a knowingly high driver.
            4. ..and if the child was tested for dope and had dose in her blood, child endangerment for smoking with her in an enclosed space.

            The passenger Lavish Reynolds was committing the crimes 2-4 above.

          • Paul Hue

            Even in these Black Lie cases where the officer gets fired or indicted, it is within the context of any hysterical lynch mob backed by the federal government. And where an officer does in these Black Lie cases employ some coverup, it is also within that context where he has a fed-backed lynch mob out to destroy him for any imperfection or technicality. I sympathize with these cops forced to deal with dangerous, drug-induced lunatics like Laquan McDonnald or the herion junkie in Charleston who fought the cop twice and the third time that he broke away the cop shot him in the back. Yes, that cop moved the taser to make it more clear that the violent junkie had defeated the taser, but ultimately I say so what: we are going to destroy a productive police officer raising his children and protecting you and me dealing with a dangerous junkie who abandoned his children and attacked that cop?

          • grim3per

            but if the gun was in his lap what was he reaching for?

          • Paul Hue

            His wallet was in his front pocket; the bulge of it was fairly touching the gun. Reaching into his lap even for his wallet would have involved reaching into the vicinity of the gun, a gun that Philando weirdly didn’t mention until he was already reaching into that area, but even more weirdly, not telling the location of the gun.

          • Outtahereasap

            From the officers view it could be the gun.

          • fass52

            Bet that Shelby gal wishes she hadn’t listened to you guy’s bullshit! When the chief of police gets sick and tired of your shit no cover-up help will you receive! lmao! She may also be charged by the fed! You guy’s are straight outta your minds!

          • The_real_one420

            YUP!

          • Hotep2you

            No, he does not deserve to die. Additionally – he was NOT even the driver of the vehicle that was stopped!

          • Paul Hue

            Philando WAS the driver; his idiot pothead girlfriend for some reason films her videos in mirror.

          • Latasha X

            You’re the idiot. She’s not filming in a mirror. When you film where the camera is facing you so that you can also see what is being recorded it’s like filming in a mirror so it looks like she is in the driver’s seat when it is actually Castile.

          • Paul Hue

            Yes, she’s an idiot. I know that she’s not filming “In a mirror”, she’s in mirror mode, but she’s not filming herself, she’s filming her high-driving boyfriend in the driver’s seat using the mode that is suited for filming a selfie.

          • Latasha X

            You’ve probably never been in a highly stressful situation. The FACT that she even had enough sense to record at all is beyond heroic.

          • Paul Hue

            She’s the opposite of a hero. She’s a criminally bad mother, based on these FACTS:
            1. She was smoking in a car with her child, with the windows up.
            2. She permitted an intoxicated person to drive her child.
            3. She and the driver were in possession of an illegal amount of dope.

            The fool that was driving had a gun in his lap, and when the officer engaged him, the fool said nothing about his gun or his permit to carry. When the fool complied with the request to produce his ID, as he reached towards his lap, only at that point did he mention’ that he was armed, but didn’t state the location of his gun. It was then that the cop spotted the gun, and issued fresh commands to put his hand up and freeze.

            The criminally negligent mother then blurted out that he had a licence, but by then it was too late, especially since the fool didn’t comply with the new orders.

          • charles

            You have no business determining whether or not he deserved to die since you can’t even figure out that it was Castile who was driving the car. You’re a moron.

          • gbp91

            what kind of question is that? castile deserved to obey the officers commands and not reach for anything especially when armed legally or not legally…….if someone is licensed to carry they are trained on proper protocol on how to interact with the police so they dont get shot. castile did not do that so it seems like he was an idiot and did not have a license to carry otherwise he would not have reached for anything…

          • Paul Hue

            Castille behaved as if he had no concealed carry permit training ..or forgot his training due to combination of being high on dope and scared because he was in violation of three laws that were about to get him and his passenger arrested.

          • Chip Jewman

            Wasn’t he reaching for his license?

          • Pam Dworshak

            How could the cop know? He couldn’t. When you have a concealed to carry permit, you don’t have you firearm on your lap, when the cop comes up to the car the very first thing you say to the cop is that you have a permit to carry a concealed weapon, and you tell the cop were your weapon is on you. The cop will ask you to step out of your car and remove it themselves, and then ask for his carry permit. It’s just that simple.

          • Chip Jewman

            Are u dumb? Have u even been following this case? You just mentioned everything this man did before getting killed. He told the cop he had a license to carry, so why would the cop feel threatened?? “How could the cop know” So not knowing warrants shooting somebody “just in case” right? You americans are the biggest scum of the earth, no wonder the whole world hates you. I’m from Africa and as corrupt as our cops are, they’re not that stupid and careless. It’s ppl like you that’ll keep America divided because no matter the evidence, you still find it in you to support and justify the carelesd actions of these pigs. Go die a slow death. I hope you get cancer.

          • Pam Dworshak

            The cop saw the gun on his lap, the cop told him not to move, and to be honest, nobody knows for a fact what he was reaching for. I would love to ask you this. Why is it so hard for people do just do as a cop asks you them to do? You want to hear just how bad of a person I am? I use to manage breeding to wean hog barns, 3000 head units, 2 of them, the company I worked for was Christensen Farms, one of the largest pork producers in the US and one of the top in the world. They would take interns from South Africa, I had 2 of them, I fired them on their first day. These 2 white men wouldn’t work with my Mexican or black employees. I have black friends, I had a black cousin, I miss him everyday, he was a very amazing man. He passed away from brain cancer. This has nothing to do with color, it has to do with him having a gun on his lap, and not doing what a cop asked him to do. I have dealt with over 500 black men from Nigeria and Ghana, I help people who are being scammed by what is called 419 scammers, and you have the nerve to call Americans scum? You don’t live here, you don’t know for a fact what is going on. I know you have your on problems there, maybe you should fix your own problems before you even think of saying anything about America.

          • brbroberts

            The officer DID NOT see the gun on his lap, the officer never saw the gun at all.

          • Pam Dworshak

            You keep telling yourself he didn’t see the gun, I guess you think the cop was telling him not to reach for the deadly DL. Think about it.

          • fass52

            You have selective hearing! Why would Castile have to tell the cop he was carrying if the cop saw it in his lap? And if it was in his lap why did the cop shoot him if he was reaching into his pocket? You see and hear what you want to. Even white privilege doesn’t allow for that.

          • Pam Dworshak

            You’re still going by what his girlfriend is only saying. Shots were fired only 1 minute and 43 seconds into the stop, that is the cop calling in the stop, walking to the car, there are pictures of the gun on his lap. It is what it is, facts are facts, even if there are people who don’t want them to be true.

          • fass52

            I’m going by what you said. First you said the gun was in his lap then you said it was somewhere else. You got worms in your brain from eating too much pork! You have not stated one fact at all!

          • Travis Sturzl

            Because he told him he had a gun maybe?

          • Pam Dworshak

            That is a gun. His gf messed up and got the gun in the video. This all happened in under 2 minutes, the cop saw the gun right away.

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6d0374795b8cd7b56badb01b63b03cec23ac4a8dba5b5026ca6a5b424874a627.jpg

          • brbroberts

            “the cop saw the gun right away.”
            Thanks, that was an awesome response!

            Since the cop saw the gun “right away”, it means that whether he held a permit to carry a concealed weapon or not never enters the discussion. North Carolina is an Open Carry state. This was manslaughter at minimum, as well as a violation of his state-granted civil rights.

          • Pam Dworshak

            The police officer is heard on the video screaming, “I told him not to reach for it, I told him to get his hand off it!!”. Did you even watch the video? The officer was more upset about it then the gf. What the hell is a cop suppose to do if someone is reaching for a gun that the cop can see? What would you do? You can watch all of it or if you want to hear the cop, start at 34 sec mark. You can keep wanting it to be a murder, but it isn’t. Gun on lap, cop shoots him not even 2 minutes in. You hear on video him say to her that he told him not to reach for it and to get his hands off from it.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=855_RtW4Fx4

          • Pam Dworshak

            What does N.Carolina have to do with this? Minnesota DOES NOT have open carry laws, only concealed laws. This happened in Minnesota.

          • charles

            I “love” responses like yours. You say it’s manslaughter and a violation of his civil rights? Wow! You don’t even have all the information and you’ve already decided that crimes were committed. Thank God we have the rule of law. Before we had that people would jump to conclusions and burn innocent people to death because they were quick to judge without any evidence. Please go crawl back to the dark ages.

          • fass52

            The cop told the GF that he told Castile not to move. You didn’t hear the cop say that.

          • Pam Dworshak

            This is what the cop said” I told him not to reach for it. I told him to get his hand out.” I never heard the cop say to her that he told him not to move.

          • Edward Odom

            He did not have a gun on his lap. Where are you getting that from?

          • Pam Dworshak

            He did have his gun on his lap,if you would take 2 seconds and check it out you would see I am right, there are even pictures of it on his lap.

          • Edward Odom

            Trying to be fair I took your advice and researched your claims that he had a gun on his lap. I do see in several papers where you could have gotten that from. Unfortunately though, the papers that make that claim definitively are The Gateway Pundit, Madworld News, and the conservative Treehouse. Not exactly papers known for their objectivity. These same papers also make claims that he was a known robbery suspect and that he did not have a registered gun permit. All which is false. To prove their claims that he had a gun on his lap they show a blown up still from the facebook video that could be seen as a piece of a butt of a gun sticking out from his bloody T-Shirt. To use that picture to say that he had a gun in his lap is a bit of a stretch which is why no reputable newspaper is making that claim.

          • Outtahereasap

            He would not have to see a weapon to alert that he might be reaching for it.
            He did suspect that the man might have been involved in the recent robbery

          • Edward Odom

            I really wasn’t commenting on that but since you brought it up, If the officer thought that Castile was a robbery suspect then he should have followed the procedure for a felony stop which involves the officers telling the suspects to exit the vehicle with their hands up and to lie down on the ground. Because he didn’t follow this process he put himself in a vulnerable position which resulted in a man’s death.

          • John J Rouse

            You’re not a cop moron, I am. And that’s not procedure. The protocol in most cases where it isn’t a hot crime, meaning just happened, would be to do what the officer did. Then exit him out the vehicle tell him to turn around and secure him. But we all know 13% of the population commits 54% of the murders so this cop was right on. Case is closed.

          • Qillabee

            This is a racist comment. Racist as hell….and if you are a cop, I hope your racist ass loses your job.

          • John J Rouse

            How is posting factual black crime racist you black moron?

          • Qillabee

            Another racist reply.

          • John J Rouse

            Than quit replying, you racist.

          • Qillabee

            LOL! That’s your response? You KEEP making racist comments…and you say you are a cop….and then you call someone else racist? So let me help you: the comments you have made dictate that you do nothing to protect everyone. You are crooked and a sham of a human being, which in turn makes you a sham of a cop. You called me a “black moron.” You have no clue of my race. You said “13% of the population commits 54% of the murders, so this cop was right on.” Let’s evaluate that. 13% of the population is black. You just condoned a cop killing a person because they are black. That pretty much makes you the cop folks hate. I hope your superiors never see your comments. But they might not because you are probably a cop who hides behind their badge. I know some great cops….but you sir are absolute trash. Now go ahead and respond with more racist rhetoric.

          • John J Rouse

            I’m working right now. Something you know nothing about, shitskin

          • Qillabee

            Lol…your responses kill me. I’m working too. BUT I’m doing so without discrimination, stereotyping, bigotry, and without the goal of feeling people should die. I’m working to make the world better.

          • John J Rouse

            I am too. By containing and sometimes eliminating the virus that is plaguing humanity. Just contained 3 ferals today

          • charles

            Why is his comment racist? Since when is being honest racist? It’s very very true…13% of the population does commit an ENORMOUS amount of crime. We all know who the 13% is. For those of you that don’t know who the 13% is I’ll give you a hint…. it’s black people. It’s time to be honest and real and not say “racist” at everything that upsets you. Castile is dead because he didn’t comply with reasonable requests from the officer. And just as an aside..Diamond (lavish lol) Reynolds is a ratchett ass hood trash bitch. Just go watch her videos of doing and selling drugs in front of her kid.

          • Pam Dworshak
          • Witch Doctor

            That is stupid, in most stated the officer can legally disarm you if they feel threatened. This was senseless.

          • Pam Dworshak

            That’s what I said, the cop will remove the gun.

          • brbroberts

            The cop would know, because the cop told him to provide his license.

          • Pam Dworshak

            And you say that he asked him for his DL because Castiles GF say so? Maybe you need to do a little research on the GF.

          • brbroberts

            No, I said the cop asked him for his license because the cop said so in his report

          • Pam Dworshak

            There isn’t anything about him asking him for his license in his report, or any report, post the link saying this.

          • Travis Sturzl

            The cop didn’t say anything, could have stop him, told him what was going on. Told him what he was going to do, to not reach for his wallet until he disarmed him. The protocol is also on the officer to enforce that.

          • Rosamund

            Only in the girlfriends version of events. Many of her “facts” are clearly wrong.

          • fass52

            And you were there?

          • Outtahereasap

            This is true. Each state has different rules for conceal carry….some states are nearly identical. In Texas you immediately tell the officer you have the permitted weapon in the vehicle. You should already have your ID out when he approaches, to include the conceal carry permit and DL. If not you should wait until he asks you to get your ID. There are classes and booklets that teach protocol….you have to pass the test. Officers will always be prepared to fire if you go for something suddenly. This girls video and description doesn’t tell every detail of the event.

          • Paul Hue

            “Deserve to die” is not a term that applies here. Philando identically matched the physical appearance of an armed robber and he had a handgun sitting on his lap under his Tshirt and he did not mention that he was armed until it was WAY TOO late, he never mentioned that he had a concealed carry permit — his trashy girlfriend blurted that out, again, WAY TOO late — and he disregarded the fresh orders of the officer reacting to the bizarre, sudden blurting out of information about a gun just as that gun was coming into view as Philando was reaching for either the gun, or his wallet, which were touching each other.

            The officer had no choice but to shoot. Perhaps Philando wasn’t the robber. Perhaps he as just too high to remember to properly inform the officer IMMEDIATELY and with his hands FAR FROM the weapon. Why he had that gun on his lap is not easy to understand, especially with a five year old in the car.

          • Timothy Walters

            No one “deserves”to die. When your decide to drive around in a vehicle, smoking weed, with a child in the back and with a gun on your lap there is a possibility you may due if you get pulled over by police. His actions are careless and reckless at best. It’s justified, not deserved.

        • inntheory

          He wasn’t driving the car. Why do you pull over a person in the passenger seat for his driving record?

          • Paul Hue

            Carole was driving. Please study this topic more.

        • Sheila Powell-Jenkins

          OK, his license was suspended, he wasn’t driving so why mess with him

          • gbp91

            he was driving………read more

        • Ivy Feliciano

          Does that warrant murder?! Just asking?

      • BLM=TERRORIST GROUP ✓ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ

        Seeing how you are so positive, please show credible proof of your claims.

      • gbp91

        sorry dan he did not have a license to carry, and even if he did he was careless did not obey commands not to reach for anything…….subsequently he was shot…..he did fit the description of a robbery suspect and was stopped for that reason.

      • Timothy Walters

        Every gun permit has rules that you must comply. Possessing illegal drugs with a handgun violates the permit terms and makes it unlawful to carry a weapon. As Miss Reynolds acknowledged they did have marijuana in the car and smoking it…. idiot

    • Trisha A. H.

      You sound so stupid and ignorant. You’re a crackhead. Did your mommy drop you on your head? That’s the message you’re sending me!

      • Gene Splicer

        Sorry. Did that hit too close to home?

    • Esther Clark

      His multiple arrests were for driving while black and inability to pay the resulting fines.

      • Gene Splicer

        And that would lead someone to believe the local Sheriff would issues a CCW permit to this individual? Not likely.

  • Dan

    Funny how this “story” doesn’t say how many of those times he got pulled over that the judge threw out the stupid citation he got.

    His most serious conviction……driving on a revoked license.

    You people are such idiots. It would be laughable if you weren’t so pathetic.

    Here’s info from a RELIABLE source:

    According to the Star Tribune, “Minnesota court records show only misdemeanors and petty misdemeanors on Philando Castile’s record.”

    • John Siders

      Regardless of criminal records, we weren’t there and shouldn’t judge what happened. Good people can do bad things. No one is above the law. If the officer was wrong , it will come out. And just because someone has never had a felony , doesn’t mean that they won’t hurt you.

      • Mary Finley

        So all black men are suspect? No police officers have felonies either so are you including them in that that doesn’t mean they won’t hurt you’ catagory?

        • Thomas Cox

          WOW…where did you get that from John’s response to Dan, Mary???

          • jules2u

            Sadly, they will wonder why there is a problem in our country.

        • John Siders

          So you take what I say and think it is racial? Grow up.

    • John Baker

      The reason that he was so uppity this time is that HE HAD NO LICENSE TO DRIVE! It was revoked. He wanted to talk his way out of having to show it.

      • Trisha A. H.

        He was on the passenger side

        • jules2u

          Didn’t know the steering wheel was on the passenger side of the vehicle. If you watch the video, the steering wheel is in front of him.

      • msdennis

        How do you know he was uppity? Provide a link showing his DL was revoked.

    • JJ

      He pled guilty at least 16 times since 2002 for driving on a Suspended or Revoked license. During 3 of those times he was also charged with possession of marijuana, but he took a plea deal and those charges were dropped. It should also be noted that on several of his guilty convictions he was sentenced to jail time. Not really a pillar of the community……

      And it is a reliable source since the info came directly from the State Court Database.

      • msdennis

        No he was found with weed once, not 3 times. How many times would you, your kids, your friends, your friends’ kids be caught with weed if stopped?

        • JJ

          I didn’t just pull that number out of thin air, it is in his State records. You might want to go ahead and take a look at his driving and criminal history on-line. How many time’s you ask, well that depends on the circumstances. If myself, friends or family had they same type of record as him, lived the same type of lifestyle as him, or prior warrants like him, chances would be greater because each and every time he was stopped would be a searchable offense since he was making a trip to jail.

  • jensopine

    Doesn’t matter – the minds of those who convict and judge before all the facts are in fail to see the damage they do – it is called “false witness.” The Good Book outlines this evil and it is used time and again with these situations.

  • John’s Kawasaki

    I wonder how people can minimize the entire action by using the word “mistake”, its a distortion to the facts, a disrespect to human intelligence, its wanting to take the people who pay for this cop for fools, this “mistake” could have gone into that mans head, this “mistake” could have made a new spread of violence against police, this “mistake” was towards a black man and a mentally ill, this “mistake” is one more of many others, this “mistake” from a police officer, if it would have been the other way around it was attempted murder, plus a public execution by the other police officers, this “mistake” could have caused that his partners to also shot, the call was so undemanding that his partners didn’t shot, I remember Miami riots for shit like this, this “mistake” will cost the city MILLIONS, and thank GOD we are not seeing a riot or else it would cost the city much more MILLION$$, its a huge mistake if the CITY does not FIRE this pig and PROSECUTE

    • Ohio Land Man

      nobody said it was a Mistake..

      • Sandra Brown

        Sorry John but it was not a mistake & no one said that. Philandro was controlling his own destiny that night & made wrong decisions. His lying girlfriend tried to put a positive spin on him after the fact.

        • Ivy Stewart

          all yall white people shut up!! BC once a white man commit a crime he is considered “mentally ill” or diagnosed with some crazy illnes.. that Faggot that killed those 9 ppl in a church or the other white faggot who killed those 20 kids and others at a school??? how do yall vouch for those people… soon as our kind look the wrong way we dead or we thugs and we deserve to die… i never see you white ppl commenting under stories of your own kind killing innocent children church people/ so please SHUT UP!!

        • msdennis

          So you were there? You know his girlfriend well enough to tell if she is being truthful or lying? Didn’t think so. Take your racist spiel back to your privileged world!

        • Azrael81

          The officer did not follow procedure and do a felony stop for what he thought was an armed robber. Instead he did a regular traffic stop which goes against procedure. The officer not following procedure caused the officer to take an innocent life. A good cop would have had the occupants exit the vehicle while officers took cover using vehicles as ur trained to do. The officer thought philando was an armed robber but did not do a felony stop as he should have. The officer is lucky this was not the real armed robber or the officer could have been shot in the face as he came to the window. That’s y u do a felony stop instead of a regular traffic stop when dealing with a potential armed suspect who robber a store.

    • William Jackson

      The officer did not make a mistake, he fired on a man who was reaching in the direction of a pistol that he had on his lap. ( out of 10 people (police or civilian) would shoot if they were in the same circumstance. The only mistakes that were made, were made by Castile : he made a mistake by keeping his firearm on his lap when he had a child in the car, he made the mistake of reaching in the direction of the firearm ( or reaching for the firearm, which is also a possibility) , and he made the mistake of thinking that the officer would hesitate to fire when he reached for his firearm (because of all the negative press when a thug gets shot) thus allowing Castile the opportunity to fire the first shot. Anyone of any color would likely have been shot by the officer in the same circumstances. He wasn’t shot because he was black, he got himself shot because he made a stupid mistake (whether he intended to shoot the officer or not ). If the officer (any officer ) hesitates to fire when someone (of any race) reaches for a firearm, then its a whole different news story ( about another police officer killed in the line of duty, which the media will barely cover, if at all. )

      • Trisha A. H.

        Yes, he was shot because he was black. It’s ok. This system was developed to wipe us out. Due to the lack of you guys not having children, they need to even it out. You are not the majority and they are trying to hide that! All this jibberish about cops. This is all government. Over a stupid proveledge that you never had and a skin color. You all should be ashamed

        • Charlie

          Trisha, look girl… maybe it was because he was black or maybe because some blacks seem to think it’s normal to be thugs. It’s been played out by your community for a very long time. It’s cool to be a thug. Look at Boyz N the Hood, Friday, Belly, etc.

          All in all girl, most whites are not racist. We just want to work and make a living. Time for racism is long gone. Racism is backwards thinking. We should look ahead, to make a future for our children.

        • Thomas Cox

          You got it Trish…never mind that whites are killed at double the rate of blacks…you keep buying the privilege stuff

        • William Jackson

          If you actually believe that Trisha, then you are likely delusional or paranoid, or both and you should seek counseling (from a trained professional not your friends). I am not saying this to be sarcastic or insulting, but because I am genuinely concerned for your wellbeing.

          • jules2u

            If one was to actually believe Trisha, then they would not be able to explain why more whites are shot and killed by officers. They fail to realize not everything is based on a person’s skin color, but rather the actions of the individual.

          • Carl W

            Well there is this:

            In August 2015, the ratio was seven-to-one of unarmed black men dying from police gunshots compared to unarmed white men.

            According to data compiled by The Washington Post, 50 percent of the victims of fatal police shootings were white, while 26 percent were black. Whites consist of 62 percent of the population and blacks make up 13 percent of the population. Hmmm…

            I know people try and spin this, and some arguments are valid, but they only lower the discrepancy not eliminate it. For example: If that ratio was say 3 to 1 instead of 7 to 1 (which is a HUGE decrease) because some could be explained, is that still okay considering how much larger the proportion of the white population is compared to the black population? There is a significantly higher percentage of blacks being killed relative to the percentage of blacks living in America. The difference is extreme. You are basically 2.5 times more likely to be killed by the Police if you are black. That’s not okay.

          • jules2u

            A lot of time personal actions and responsibility play a role in the each incident. Each case is different, the officers are different, the person involved is different, and things happen differently. I understand that some people don’t realize that those differences can and do make a huge impact as to what happens in the end.

          • Carl W

            Oh, I realize it. That’s why I offered to lower it by more than half and say just 3 to 1 instead of 7 to 1. Surely you don’t think that the entire difference is made of up circumstances? That’s absurd. Even if we account for circumstances, there is a big discrepancy, and the only thing that accounts for that discrepancy so far is race. Please feel free to offer another reason that accounts for this huge difference….

        • Carl W

          See that’s part of the problem. You are right imo about Castile. It’s messed up. People’s eyes are being opened in America, but don’t start ruining what you have worked so hard to fix with statements like all white people want to wipe the blacks out, and it’s about color control. These are not statements that ANYONE who isn’t black would respond well too. I don’t personally know or associate with anyone who believes that we need to wipe out blacks. To say things like that is hypocritical and rasict. You don’t want to be treated like a violent person simply cause you are black. At the same time, you are making blanket statements that all white people want to wipe out blacks (you didn’t specify white people, but I was able to read between the lines…). Don’t put me in a box, and I won’t put you in one either.

          I can’t speak for the Police and I won’t defend their actions when I think they are wrong. Though I am not black, and it’s definitely not the same, I have been stopped numerous times where I live, and I have been profiled many times for whatever reason. Thinking I stole my own car (they didn’t say that, but there were some obvious signs that was the reason). Three times in a month just for that, like they don’t put notes in their system on me when they pull me over or something (I have been pulled over many other times, just less now that I am older). Never had an Officer’s weapon drawn on me, though I also do not carry one, never felt my life was endangered while speaking to an Officer, and never been arrested. I get that that is not the normal experience for the black community.

          I can’t argue that the system has been fair to blacks, it certainly hasn’t, and anyone who thinks it is is living in Fantasyland. I can argue that it will continue to be unfair until African Americans stop retaliating (not just violently, no retaliation). People are seeing the videos, and beginning to see that things maybe aren’t how they thought they were. Think of as if we are children. We were ignorant, blind to it, and many still are, but we don’t make progress by inciting violence, or making racist statements. I don’t applaud my 6 year old for hitting her 2 year old sister because she took her toy. I wouldn’t applaud her if she attacked her verbally instead of physically either. Retaliation rarely makes things better.

          Singling yourselves out as “Black Lives Matter” also is not ideal imo. If it truly is just a skin color, and you believe that (I do), then stop using it! Stop making it black and white. It doesn’t even have to be “All”, just “Lives Matter”. Period. They do, they all do, and I get why you feel it is important to differentiate. At the same time, you are differentiating in order to show there is no difference…Not the most logical argument. How did MLK feel about violent retaliation (or ANY retaliation)? (To clarify, I am not in any way accusing you of being violent, or saying that you support violent retaliation) The only progress so far has been made with non-violent protest, while violence just further entrenches the divide.

          I don’t have all the answers, but I can state with certainty, that the statements you made will never be received well by anyone who isn’t Black. Knowing that, how do you think that those statements will affect your cause? Probably not in a positive way. So you know, I am not ashamed at all. Not even a little. I have done nothing to black people. If my ancestors did, well then F them, but I had nothing to do with that. I didn’t create the system, I didn’t choose to be a certain ethnicity, I don’t do anything in my life that in any way makes black lives more difficult. I am supportive of what you are working towards and I hope that real change is on the horizon. We don’t all want to wipe out blacks, but blanket statements like that create stereotypes, and stereotypes are extremely difficult to break away from. I just hope you realize that making blanket statements about ANY race, is racist, and counter-productive. You can’t fight racism with racism. That just doesn’t make sense.

          • msdennis

            I don’t know any Black people who buy into t g e extinction theory either & I’m Black.

      • Mary Finley

        That is not true. Nowhere has anyone proven he had a gun in his lap. Please don’t point me to a biased source.

        • William Jackson

          In his woman’s video the pistol can be seen on his lap. that’s not biased.

          • jules2u

            There is something on his lap in the video. It has not been released what it was, but it could have been a gun.

      • msdennis

        Please provide the link clearly showing a gun in his lap, cocked & ready to shoot the cop as you all keep saying.

  • nedmorlef

    There are hundreds of people killed by police every year and no one bats an eye b/c most shootings we see are justified. These cases stand out as excessive.And you still try to justify it by reaching or reinterpreting the videos and tearing down the witnesses.

    You people are disgusting in your attempts to justify slaughtering innocent americans.You should be working on ways to prevent this stuff instead of looking for ways to get out of accountability.

    You’re only going to create more instances like Dallas and NY by those that feel frustrated that they have no answers or say in the system.And by creating these you’re endangering us all.

    I will back you when you’re right but, i’ll also hold you accountable when you’re wrong.And you’re wrong.

    • Ohio Land Man

      then hold each and every one of those thug assholes who commit murder every day in our Democratic Controlled Thug City’s.. Chicago etc..

      • dagg_12

        Those gangstas go to jail when they are caught…I think we all can acknowledge that as fact right?

        • Trisha A. H.

          And we can acknowledge that you’re just as lost as a fish

          • Charlie

            It’s funny how you gloss over hard facts and go straight to racial shit. Please, woman, get a grip with reality. Trust me, most normal people would be just as disgusted if they were white.

          • dagg_12

            Read my reply and to what post it was written. There is this strange reasoning where people think that citizens are somehow supporting criminals in Chicago killing other people. Criminals go to jail, cops get the benefit of presumably innocence even when it’s apparent they are wrong.

          • Ohio Land Man

            they dont catch those thugs…. because no one tells on the thugs..

          • dagg_12

            I agree more police should come forward when corrupt officers are beating citizens in front of them. Those thugs need to be brought forward, but the good cops fear for their safety. Police really need to eliminate that no snitching crap from their community.

        • msdennis

          There have been innocent Black and White men and women wrongfully convicted.

      • Trisha A. H.

        Hide in the closet. Thug assholes? Ahahahahaaaa you sound worse than an old white man. Wait a minute…. Are you? And that word democrat, was created by your people to create divide. You sound divided. Be careful because your own people will kill you for their gain if you haven’t noticed

        • Ohio Land Man

          Trisha.. the murder rate of blacks killing blacks is higher than all other races put together times 5!!!!!!!!!! http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/11/28/5-devastating-facts-black-black-crime/ Go bitch about that.. maybe some one will listen to You.. I have beat thug assholes numerous times.. both Black and White.. most were Black.. if you act like a thug.. you will get handled like one.. btw.. 2 died..

          • Mary Finley

            No u are giving false info. 90% black on black. 83% white on white according to FBI stats.

          • Ohio Land Man

            you have to read the whole story.. whilst only being at most 6.6 % of our countries population.. compared to 38% of white males.. Black males make over 5 times the deaths in ratio.. and over a thousand more.. in numbers.. bottom line. every death is a shame.. instead of focusing on the bullshit.. maybe most people should work on solutions.. How do we stop it.. ?

  • Debbie Flannery

    Castile should have complied with the officer and not moved his hands. You can see in the video as clear as day the pistol on his leg! They have been lying since this all started and said they were pulled over because of a broken tail light. That’s a lie!!! Then Lavish goes on TV all dolled up and gets all sorts of money in her GoFundme account!!! Try taking a look at her Facebook accounts! Both of them smoking pot with her daughter in the back seat of her car. Smoking pot in her room with her daughter coughing up a lung… It’s disgusting!!!! Sorry, she deleted her accounts but I’m sure if you google them you’ll find them! What a disgrace, dancing as she’s pregnant with her son drinking alcohol and smoking pot! She made a name for herself, why do you think she waiting so long to start the video? Because it’s not the way it went down! She lied and now police officers are dead and families are grieving!!!!

    • msdennis

      Please provide the link of the gun on his lap. Not the bleary one that people cannot see clearly.

  • Liz Jordan

    Bottom line…a 4 year old is the biggest victim! To see an adult murdered in front of her, alongside an adult who is supposed to PROTECT her, putting her in a dangerous situation!!! ????????????

    • Me Jane

      Actually, that isn’t the first time the child has been put in a dangerous situation. The “mother” was quite fond of live streaming…events. She put her child in dangerous situations, live streamed it and posted it for the public to see.

      Also, anyone interested in taking the time to do so can follow friendships on fb and see when certain relationships began and when his “criminal history” began.

      Your use of the word “murdered” is out of place here. He was killed due to his own actions. Diamond’s own words support this. Social media is quite revealing.

      • msdennis

        I don’t for one moment condone smoking and drinking around your child but I think seeing her mother’s boyfriend shot & killed in front of her will do more damage than seeing Mommy high!

        • Me Jane

          I agree. It’s very sad when irresponsible “parents” put children in these types of situations.

        • Me Jane

          So, you and I agree that parent’s should not put their children in these dangerous situations.

  • Charlie

    Here is what I want to know:

    Why isn’t his girlfriend, Diamond “Lavish” Reynolds also being investigated? I seen videos of that shitty mother smoking blunts (weed) and drinking alcohol WHILE her child was in the back seat. That greedy bitch has TONS of videos of herself flat out ignoring her child. Talking about how she hates being a mom (while telling the media she wanted kids from Alton). http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=38b_1468298290 Here’s my source

    • Mary Finley

      Alton?

      • Thomas Cox

        You mean the guy with the gun in his waistband who was trying to pull it out, to do what with it?

    • Mary Finley

      Oh yeah, that’s an unbiased source for information. LOL

    • msdennis

      You’re confusing the stories…put your blunt down!

  • Tracy

    If this cop really thought he was a robbery suspect, then why didn,t he follow the procedures for a felony stop?

  • Mary Finley

    Of course the cops are going to paint a negative pic of Castile. Why would they not? Nothing here justifies him being shot four times by the officer. The article is biased on the side of the officer.

    • William Jackson

      He was shot because he reached for a gun, not because he was a bad guy or a black guy. Either he was carrying it on his lap, or he actually pulled it from somewhere else and dropped it in his lap when he was shot, but the woman’s video clearly showed it on his lap after he had been shot. Everyone of any race that I’ve ever known, is aware that when stopped by the police you keep your hands on the steering wheel until instructed to do otherwise by the officer (because reaching for anything can result in you getting shot.) Stop blaming race instead of stupidity.

      • msdennis

        Why didn’t the officers do a felony stop instead of a traffic stop?

  • Mary Finley

    Only White people defend officers no matter what they do. Oh and a few uncles.

    • Thomas Cox

      What do you mean by “white people?” You clearly don’t realize the huge
      differences even within white cultures…German, Irish, French,
      Dutch, Turkish, Spanish, Norwegian…so who do you mean? Calling people “white” is
      like stereotyping Asians by lumping them as Oriental. Rich cultures that live throughout Asia that
      are in some ways similar, but in others vastly different!

      Dig this…there is only one race…the human race. We have to stop attacking each other…NOW!!!

    • William Jackson

      When you say “only white people” and “uncles” you show yourself to be a VERY racist person. That is just as bad as someone saying that only black people get confrontational with police officers, or only black people act like thugs. I guess that the main difference between us is that most white people seem to think officers deserve to be treated as innocent until proven guilty and have the incident impartially investigated, and then decide if the officer should charged with an offence. Whereas most black people seem to think that white police officers are automatically guilty of being racists that have no legal reason whatsoever to have stopped a black driver except to assault or shoot him/her, and that black drivers never do anything to deserve to be stopped by the police, and are never confrontational or foul mouthed while refusing to follow the legal instructions given by the police officer, and never act like thugs but are actually decent, kind , gentle people who are never discourteous or disrespectful. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEvMc-K8XHY

  • JakeMcClake

    It seems a lot of focus is on Castile’s record.
    Another portion of the focus is on the permit or whether he had one.

    What is the officer’s account of events?

    • jules2u

      The paperwork is not proof that he had a valid carry permit as it was sent about a year ago. A person could still have possession of the letter even if the permit is revoked. So the full information has still not been released, other than Ms. Reynolds was not being fully truthful in her comments, such as stating that he never received CPR, when in reality he did.

      • msdennis

        Okay that has been discussed ad nauseum. How about the felony stop procedure?

  • Greg

    “New Info Supports Officer in Shooting of Philando Castile” No it emphatically does not. Even if Castile looked like the person who robbed the convenience store and Yanez based stopping him on that suspicion, the protocal would have deferred to SOP for making a felony arrest which would have necessitated another police car as part of the detention. Yanez took this upon himself without following SOP. Just because he says he has a reason to stop Castile does not allow him nor his precinct to break procedure. The police messed up. They need to come clean.

  • Miller Smith

    Why did the officers fail to follow proper procedure by not performing a felony traffic stop?

    If the officers had thought Castile may have been an armed robbery suspect, the officer does not walk up to the window with gun in holster to talk with the suspect.

    A suspected violent felon is stopped in a car with backup on the way (not called for according to 911 tapes before the stop), and the officers call to the suspect to exit the car and, procedures vary, get down on the ground between the two cars after hands up and walking backwards…all the time the police officer’s guns are out and pointing at the suspect.

    Any commentary from our police friends on this blog?

  • Miller Smith

    Why did the police officer fail to perform a proper felony traffic stop for someone he believed to be a Armed robber?

    Proper police procedure And training dictates That when an officer believes an armed felons suspect is in a car comma that you do not walk up to the window to talk to them with your gun in your holster. You perform a procedure called felony traffic stop.

    Both police officers in the car at at least a two car Lenghts distance, With guns drawn has they are behind theIr car open car doors Or from behind the car comma announce to the occupant of the stopPed the vehicle to exit one At a time.

    Each occupant is removed one of the time and placed on the ground and handcuffed. Once both officers have got the occupant handcuffed at least one officer still covers the other car with his gun in case someone pops up who is hidden.

    When all known occupants are out of the car the officers then clear the car before rendering and declaring it Safe.

    While they are making the actual rolling to a stop, the officers are to ask for backup to be rolling at that moment. 911 recording show that they did not ask for any such backup.

    I would dearly love and sincerely request police officers on this site to explain why the officers did not perform a proper felony stop of someone they told 9-1-1 they thought could be an armed robber.

    Considering the officer who did shoot the young men dead did know the young man for quite some time. Is it possible he did not recognize him?

    I also noticed in the 9-1-1 tapes that the police officers did not call in the make, model, nor the tags of the car before stopping it. They did not run the tags to check for owner

    I respectfully request police officers on this site to give me some insight as to why these things were not done.

    Thank you.

    • msdennis

      Thank you Miller Smith!!! These questions are being swept under the rug.

  • santiago

    How many police officers were killed in 2015? How many civilians? If it is a ratio of 1:1 to 1:2 Max then it is proportional and fair, i not, then there is something wrong.

  • Miller Smith

    This comment has already been deleted twice by someone

    If the officer truly thought, has in his 911 radio traffic shows, that he thought he had Someone who was a suspect in an armed robbery in his sights, why did he not perform a standard felony traffic stop?

    Why did he not go ahead and have the people get out of the car on the ground secure them clear the car and then check for ID?

  • Amy Widmer

    Low life Reynolds!! Total black ????????????????????????????????????

  • ipryda

    This article and web site are full of shit. A BLUE will tell a lie and roll with a conjured story to protect themselves, this is the problem. Then you want accolades and sympathy. SMH have several seats. Will the REALO OFFICERS & GENTLEMAN please stand up and stop watching your co-workers beat the shit outta people. Hey Blue, your supposed to be an example of the positive, not thirsty barbarians. You all need a restructured training system and better mental therapy. If you can not handle the job sit your ass down and get a light weight security job.

  • lily

    I respect LE but you will never be able to clean this up in a million years.

  • Primskin

    Officer Yanez pulled Mr. Castille over based on a general BOLO alert. The alert that has been shown in the media was not a detailed suspect description, which is the only way that officer Yanez would have been legally allowed to detain Mr. Castille for further investigation, explaining why officer Yanez reported to dispatch that he “had a reason for pulling the car over”. Legally, he needed to have a valid reason for pulling him over since there was not a detailed suspect description. If officer Yanez was privy to other specific details regarding the armed robbery from 4 days earlier, he certainly didn’t report them, otherwise they would have been included on the BOLO. Yanez specifically said to dispatch that Mr. Castille’s nose width was what made him believe he was his suspect. Unless officer Yanez has a specific nose width measurement and a set of calipers, that was NOT enough probable cause to pull Mr. Castille over. He illegally detained Mr. Castille, presumably lied to them about his reason for stopping them since he was not within his legal right to do so (adding credence to ms Reynolds comments about a busted tail light).
    Based on that information, I have a hard time believing anything else the officer claims.
    Mr. Castille proved to be a licensed gun holder, something criminals are not allowed to acquire. As for multiple traffic violations making someone a criminal? Shitty driver maybe but if his actions were criminal, that would have prevented him from getting his license to carry.
    When looking at just the facts available so far, it’s not looking good for the officer in this particular case and slandering the victim without sufficient proof is just petty and unethical to say the least.

  • marcusa

    Traffic incidents are not crimes. They are petty misdemeanors. This article is essentially saying getting a speeding ticket is a “crime” which is wrong.

  • Bmore1100

    You said nothing and gave nothing that we already knew, your day of reckoning is coming.

  • Michael Cowan

    A panicked, coward pulled out a gun and shot multiple times at an unarmed man in a car with a woman and child.

    Blind panic. Screaming, wildly firing his gun, terrified. You kill old women, children and small dogs … while all your blue brothers turn a blind eye.

    When the feds look for corruption, they always find it infecting the entire department.

    But hey, you gave the girl covered in a murdered mans blood a little teddy bear.

    • msdennis

      Good one.

  • Jeff Jones

    Another Cop loving page defending the killing of an innocent man because he was a coward with a badge. Deadly force should NEVER be your first option. if it is then you should not be wearing a badge.

  • Kal Tourette

    This cop needs to be in prison. I didn’t know murderers keep their freedom because they have impunity…oh wait…yea they do when they are the boys in blue

  • Richard K

    This info would only justify the stop. Not the shooting. You are grasping at straws. If anything it caused the cop to be more on edge and increased the likly hood of him shooting an innocent man.

  • tray Lunch

    You are a lying, spinmeistering, blue sack of shit. Former president George Bush has already exposed the paradigm from which you lie when he spoken in Dallas.

  • tray Lunch

    If the name of this site was changed to “Blue Lies Matter”, it’s purpose would be more clear. Same is true for the yellow crime scene tape. If the “N” were removed, it’s purpose would be better explained- as it would correctly say:

    *POLICE LIE*DO NOT CROSS*POLICE LIE*DO NOT CROSS* POLICE LIE*DO NOT CROSS*POLICE LIE* DO NOT CROSS….Ha Ha !!!

  • Tyson Rien

    This is a disgusting article. No where does this attempt to justify the shooting itself. Calling out the victims (many) traffic incidents is ridiculous. Is this meant to imply that someone who has a defective vehicle can reasonably be shot by police, and those citations used as justification?
    Please stop defending indefensible positions. This is a major source of distrust for the general public.
    Say something like, “hes a good man, with integrity, and he made a mistake.” We, the public, might be able to trust officers more if they were willing to admit wrongdoing.

  • Tyson Rien

    The ONLY thing that would justify this shooting, is if he ACTUALLY reached for his gun! Law enforcement has made NO mention that that was the case. No defense of this situation unless youre talking about his gun.

  • Will you idiots ever own up to anything? You can paint this picture with as many brushes as you want to, but that won’t ever make this a “good shoot.”

  • Mr.Boombostick

    Typical article on explaining why police should never be held accountable and why Castile deserved to die.

  • Jeffrey Wilson

    The Officer showed poor judgement. The debate over his criminal records and gun permanent doesn’t have anything to do with killing another human being. Find Justification for killing another human being, or pay for your crimes.

  • Mike Johnson

    Kill the pig, kill em all!

  • Paul Hue

    What is the status of the investigation into the robbery committed by the man who looks identical to Philando Castile? Have detectives determined that Philando WAS NOT, WAS, or COULD BE that robber?

  • Jim

    Biggest load of bs i’ve seen today. Long criminal history of 22 TRAFFIC crimes? The cops gave the little girl a teddy bear, Castile had been arrested before for driving on a suspended license, the officer was the one who booked him. This entire story is the lamest excuse for police brutality, in fact would be a lame excuse for anything, if the law weren’t so feudal about the “rights” of police officers to enforce the law instead of protecting the citizenry.

  • Paul Hue

    What is the status of Castile’s toxicology analysi?

    He behaved as if he had no concealed carry permit training ..or forgot his training due to combination of being high on dope and scared because he was in violation of three laws that were about to get him and his passenger arrested.

    1. Driving while high.
    2. Possessing illegal amount of dope.
    3. Child endangerment.

    His erratic, dangerous conduct with the officer was even consistent with that of a man scared that he was about to be arrested for an armed robbery committed a few days before a few blocks away. feared

    • josh

      Wow… all you saw was a video of a dying black man after being shot and you automatically assumed he was on drugs, showing erratic behavior. Despite no drugs being found in the vehicle and no history of drug use

      You sir are a racist piece of sh@t

  • stop crying

    The man got himself killed. Riding with a gun in your lap?

  • Stacey Samuels

    Get real people. Tickets does not equal death. That cop had previous problems. I guess when they shot the death guy last week he was wrong also. Everyone has something to day until it happens to their family member. This world is racist as hell.

  • jen

    weirdly I haven’t heard anything from the NRA about this- you would think they would have something to say, given that somebody who was licenced to carry was shot for carrying a gun he was legally allowed to have. I mean you would THINK this would be an issue other gun owners and gun rights activists would care about- they could be next! Where is the ‘from my cold dead hands’? Oh wait, I know why, wrong color.

  • Andy Yee

    Still waiting for the part you justified the shooting though but didn’t get any. All you said is he had a previous rap sheet but still didn’t justify the shooting. Nice try…..

  • Azrael81

    So how come no one’s brought up the fact that the officer did not perform a felony stop instead of a regular old fashioned traffic stop. Big difference between how you go about doing each. If this officer was propperly trained and was pulling over a suspect who he believed was involved in a armed robbery the proper thing to do procedure wise would be to have all the occupants exit the vehicle while officers usied vehicles as cover. This is what you do to protect ur selves as officers since you think ur pulling over armed robbers. A properly trained officer would not do a regular traffic stop for someone thought to be a perp in an armed robbery. He problem did think that Philando was the same suspect and that is what put him in a heightened state of anxiety. This was a rookie move by an officer that should have known better. The officer is lucky that the victim was not a hardened criminal and the real armed robber or he would have been the one ending up dead because by not following procedure

  • Damon Cruse

    Zechariah 11:5-7

    5 Whose possessors slay them, and hold themselves not guilty: and they that sell them say, Blessed be the Lord; for I am rich: and their own shepherds pity them not.

    4
    So people you can’t fight ignorance and stop arguing with these people who see philando as the cause of his own death
    The scripture reads that they will find no fault in themselves

    Deuteronomy 28:48
    Because you did not serve the Lord your God joyfully and gladly in the time of prosperity, 48 therefore in hunger and thirst, in nakedness and dire poverty, you will serve the enemies the Lord sends against you. He will put an iron yoke on your neck until he has destroyed you.

    Jeremiah 5 19
    as ye have forsaken me, and served strange gods in your land, so shall ye serve strangers in a land that is not yours.

  • Damon Cruse

    Taken away by force on ships to strange lands

    Stranger in a land that’s not yours

    Hid thrown away and hid in prisons

    And those who do it find themselves not guilty

    Deuteronomy chapter 28

  • Damon Cruse

    To whom this may concern or not
    You and people like yourself are the problem now you can delete posts and design the comments to fit your purpose that’s cool as you may delete this but know this the day is coming revlation 3:9
    Not according to me according to the wrath of God almighty! And that’s is something you can’t delete

  • St. Jude

    You guys are just as ridiculous as black lives matter. That is the arguments you use to justify your position are just as fallacious.There is no defense of this police officer. He made a mistake because he was too afraid to be able to perform the job.

  • Ward

    The officer said he pulled Castile for a broken tail light. Nothing about a robbery. This is purely a spin tactic, and obvious. If Castile had a history of attacking law enforcement he would not have a concealed carry permit. Also, when are you “police are never wrong” people going to admit that officers don’t run full background checks Everytime they talk to someone? The criminal background is only cited to sway public opinion against the victim of murder.

  • josh

    And this is police’s justification for murdering him. Because he was arrested on petty traffic violations…..Then this article goes on to accuse his family of lying, suggesting that because of traffic violations, he deserved what he got

    This article meant to defend police actually made me think less of them..congrats

  • josh

    This Article is basically justifying Philando Castile’s murder by suggesting that he had it coming to him because he was arrested for traffic violations.

    After reading this Blue lives matter article I actually think less of police now…congratulations….how about next time post articles of how police can repair the damaged relations between the black community and police departments, instead of trying to justify murder by dragging the victims name through the mud

    I’m pretty sure you people are going to have this comment deleted too Like My last…If you can’t intelligently defend your own position then maybe you should rethink it…just saying

    • Paul Hue

      This article corrects the popular misconception that Philando was an upstaging citizen who was shot for being black.

      • josh

        No, it demonizes Castile by suggesting that because he had traffic violations, he was a bad person who deserved to be killed. You are a racist piece of sh@t for supporting this line of thinking…..I’ve been reading the comments here. Interesting that even those who are opposed to Black lives matter found this article disgusting and racially offensive. But not you.

        Perhaps if you were defending the cop by saying it was an honest mistake or he couldn’t take chances…but that’s not what you’re is it. No, your method as is this article is to run the VICTIMS name through the gutter, making it seem like philando is better off to society, dead. You sir are a horrible person…..and God have mercy on the community you police if you’re a cop

        • Paul Hue

          The national press copy-pasted the Black Lie that Castile was a marvelous person who complied with laws and orders but was nonetheless shot for being black by a racist cop who pulled him over for no good reason as a part of racial harassment. The reality is the opposite, as the article documents.

          The cop is Hispanic and pulled Philando over because Philando so closely resembles a recent robbery suspect that the police have still not cleared him. Philando was driving while high and smoking weed in the car with a child, and had a gun on his lap. The officer shot Philando because Philando reached for that gun after the officer lawfully instructed him not to.

          Any of my fellow critics of the Bleck Lies Matter movement who agree with that bunch on this case are not applying here the sabe logic that led them to reject Black Lies in the first place.

          • josh

            And there you go with the lie that he was on drugs again. Anything to support you’re racial hatred I suppose. Never mind the fact that there were no drugs recovered from the vehicle, that no autopsy found drugs in his system and that philando had no history of drug use…This drug LIE alone exposes you for racist you are and destroys your credibility, speaking volumes about your character…Every word you say you just prove yourself to be even more of the racist piece of sh@t then the last time you post and not even smart about it at that as you’re making outlandish accusations that has no basis in reality and can be easily proven wrong

          • josh

            And by the way no such video can be found of philando using drugs…but by all means prove me wrong with a link….prove your point…I’m waiting

          • Paul Hue

            No drugs recovered from the vehicle? The stupid child abusing girlfriend declared in one of her crazed videos that they had dope in the car. She expected to be arrested for that, but considered that pending charge “no big deal”.

          • Paul Hue

            He wasn’t high? No autopsy? The toxicology report is being suppressed. Why do you suppose that is? The child abusing girlfriend posted a video of them smoking dope while he was driving with her child just a few days before. Easy money bet: he was high.

          • Paul Hue

            The only racist in our dialog is you, as the only possible explanation for why you would take up for this social menace is that you have a fetish for his racial categorization.

          • josh

            Anything else to add, racist trash?

          • josh

            You know I have more respect for the KKK then I do for people like you because at least they’re not too cowardly to just come right out and say how they feel……you’re not only a racist piece of sh@t but a cowardly one at that

      • josh

        Anything else to add? Maybe you want to lie and say philando was in drugs again as you did in your last comment…Maybe you want to demonize the little girl who whitenessed the shooting. I’m interested to see just how low you’ll stoop to to defend the killing of an innocent.

        You can delude yourself that you’re a good person all you want but I see right through you

        • Paul Hue

          Philando was high, and in possession of dope at the time of the shooting. A few days before, his ignorant girlfriend videotaped the two of them smoking dope with her daughter on the car. She is the victim of child abuse.

    • John J Rouse

      Self defense ain’t murder you dumb pos

  • Jennifer Lee-Lewis

    You’ve got to be fucking kidding me. The man was an upstanding citizen who worked in a school cafeteria. He was shot exercising his second amendment rights, complying with an officer who he had just told he was legally carrying and was gonna reach for his paperwork to prove he was legally carrying. You second amendment pushing punks always out there spouting hate at people wanting regulation – but when someone is killed legally carrying a concealed weapon by a police officer you try and find dirt on the guy??? Fucking hello!!! Do you think he would have been hired at a school with a criminal background of any kind? No. You can’t even go on a field trip with your own kid without fingerprinting and background checks. He was not a criminal – the cop shot a man who was complying and not committing a crime on video. You people saying it was ok are fucking moronic racists who are lying to yourselves in an attempt to feel better about the atrocities happening in our country right now. You people will be the first backing Trump saying get rid of Muslims because you are scared of terrorists, but cops have killed more citizens in two years than “terrorists” have killed in this country ever and more people died at the hands of cops in two years than soldiers have died in ten in wars in the middle east. You are obviously mislead about where your fears should lie. And it is oviously rooted in racism because you deny it even when it is streaming on video in your fucking face.

    • Paul Hue

      Philando was not an upstanding citizen: he was driving around getting high in possession of dope with a child in his car, and this officer suspected him of being a robber, a suspicion that has yet to be disproved.

      Furthermore, this non-upstanding citizen was shot not for complying with, but rather for violating, the law. He had a pistol in his lap and reached for it after an officer instructed him not to.

    • John J Rouse

      Go take your meds, idiot.

  • Paul Hue

    The backgrounds of these lowlifes is always welcomed as long as the claims are positive (He was a father! He graduated! He had a job!), but once the background gets publicized by the criminal boosters and we cop boosters correct the false claims, then suddenly background is off limits in the public assessing the situation.

  • brbroberts

    yes, the officer had specific facts: He knew the guy had a wide nose. LOL the cop even said he couldn’t see anything else.

  • Edward Odom

    Officer Blue I believe that Blue Lives matter the same as I believe Black Lives Matter. They are not mutually exclusive. You are participating in the same promotion of mis-information that you are accusing the media of. Castile was not pulled over for an outstanding warrant in the November 23, 2011 incident. He was pulled over for a broken tail light. By saying that it was an outstanding warrant you are trying to portray him as a criminal when there is no indication in his records that he ever was ever arrested for any felonious behavior. You also didn’t mention that 47 of the violations that you mentioned that he was pulled over for were dismissed which is why they are investigating the traffic stops in that area for profiling. So stay true to what you are preaching and tell all of the information not just what supports your case. Also I don’t care if a person is pulled over for 100 traffic violations it does not justify them getting shot by the police. According to audio recordings police Officer Jeronimo Yanez over the radio said that he suspected the “two individuals” in the car as being robbery suspects and his reason for suspecting Castile was because, in his words, “”The driver looks more like one of our suspects, just ’cause of the wide-set nose,”. So after he approaches the car and saw that the “two” suspects were actually a couple with their child he should have taken a different approach. He knew that the women and the child were not suspects even if he thought the man might be. By the outcome you know that he did not alter his approach. That is the reason this case is getting the media attention not because of some vendetta against the police!!

    • John J Rouse

      Where Did it say he was pulled over for a warrant you illiterate pos. It says he was pulled over for being suspect of the robbery.

      • Edward Odom

        It clearly reads in the article above, “We’ve also learned that when Officer Jeronimo Yanez shot Philando Castile, it wasn’t Officer Yanez’ first contact with Castile. Police records show that Castile had been arrested for an outstanding warrant and driving on a revoked license in 2011; Officer Yanez was the officer who had booked him into jail”.

        Since you are the one that clearly can’t read it seems you have the illiterate part covered. But I love it when you have to resort to name calling. That means you have nothing else to say. Don’t make it so easy! Give me something with some substance if you are going to reply to me. Other than that don’t waste my time!

        • John J Rouse

          You said he was pulled over for an outstanding warrant. Not me you illiterate baboon. He was pulled over for being in an armed robbery in which the video showed it was clearly him.

          • Edward Odom

            Wow! Did you even read the article? Can you even comprehend what I am saying? You say that you are a police officer which I doubt but if you are, I now understand what the problem is.

          • Edward Odom

            Wow! Did you even read the article? Can you even comprehend what I am saying? You say that you are a police officer which I doubt but if you are, I now understand what the problem is.

          • John J Rouse

            Yes I am and the problem is black crime. Nothing else.

          • Edward Odom

            I’ll start off slow so that you can follow. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/90203300caf31089147eae63f0f9dab958983d2b4cbe21bb53c2f2764c503f8a.jpg

            In the image you see the distribution of violent victimization by race in 2012. There were a total of 6,484,507 violent crimes. Whites committed 42.9% totaling 2,781,853.503 while blacks committed 22.4% totaling 1,452,529.568. So you see crime is not just a black phenomenon. Whites commit crimes also. Crime is not a “black” thing.

          • John J Rouse

            Whites are also 67% of the population. Looks like kneegers are the only race that has crime rates higher than their population. Kneegers also commit the majority of all murders. That’s over 50% for those who are MAFF deficient

          • Edward Odom

            Predictable! That argument might actually hold some merit if crimes were committed by the entire population as a whole. They are not. The bulk of crimes especially violent ones are committed in the impoverished areas. So If you want to get the true statistics on crime by race you have to include poverty. So here are the numbers. Try and keep up!

            During this time period there were 248,067,530 whites (including white hispanics) and there were 43,213,173 blacks (including black hispanics). As you can see the black population is approximately 5 times less than the whites which would support your argument if crime was calculated that way. But it isn’t you need to include the poverty rates. The poverty rate for whites during this time period was 9.1% which means that 22,574,145.23 whites were in poverty while the poverty rates for blacks was 24.1% totaling 10,414,374.693 black people. So if I correctly calculate the crime rate in the white community, 42% (2,781,853.503) of the violent crimes were committed within a segment of 22,574,145.23 whites which is 1 crime per 8.1 white people (12%) while 22% (1,452,529.568) of the violent crimes were committed by a segment of 10,414,374.693 black people which is 1 crime per 7.1 black people (13%). If you followed me at all you would see that when poverty rates are included. The numbers are even between whites and blacks when it comes to crime.

            Conclusion: Blacks have no more of a propensity to commit crime than white people. So there is no justification for police to target black people over white. Ok, I know it is a lot but try real hard to concentrate. Think as hard as you can and it might make sense to you.

          • John J Rouse

            Don’t you blacks use that same argument when we tell you that more whites are killed by the Police?

          • Edward Odom

            Deflection! More tactics you use when you have nothing relevant to say! You tried to use statistics (67% of the population) to justify your argument that black people are more violent. I gave you statistics to disprove your statement. Respond to that! Changing the subject won’t make you any smarter!

          • John J Rouse

            That’s not a deflection. It’s a simple fact that groid infested areas have way more crime and violence.

          • John J Rouse

            Here are the 15 most dangerous cities (with populations over 100,000):

            Rank City, . . . . . . . .Percentage Black
            313 Dayton, OH . . . . . .43.9%
            314 Richmond, VA . . . . .58.0%
            315 Kansas City, MO . .. 32.0%
            316 Washington, DC . . . .61.5%
            317 New Orleans, LA . . . 68.1%
            318 Memphis, TN . . . . . 62.1%
            319 Compton, CA . . . . . 41.8%
            320 West Palm Beach, FL .33.3%
            321 Tampa, FL . . . . . . 26.9%
            322 Camden, NJ . . . . . .55.5%
            323 Gary, IN .. . . . . . 85.5%
            324 Baltimore, MD . . . . 65.3%
            325 St. Louis, MO . . . . 52.2%
            326 Atlanta, GA . . . . . 62.2%
            327 Detroit, MI . . . . . 83.5%

            Here are the 15 safest cities in the US (with a population over 100,000):

            Rank City, . . . . . . . Percentage Black
            1 Amherst, NY . . . . . . 3.9
            2 Newton, MA . . . . . . .2.0%
            3 Mission Viejo, CA . . . 1.2%
            4 Cary, NC . .. . . . . .6.3%
            5 Brick Twnshp, NJ . . . .1.0%
            6 Simi Valley, CA . . . . 1.3%
            7 Sunnyvale, CA . . . . . 2.3%
            8 Colonie, NY . . . . . . 4.0%
            9 Sterling Heights, MI . .1.3%
            10 Clarkstown, NY . . . .8.0%
            11 Orem, UT . . . . . . . 0.3%
            12 Greece, NY . . . . . . 2.9%
            13 Thousand Oaks, CA .. .1.1%
            14 Canton Twnshp, MI . ..4.6%
            15 Livermore, CA .. . . .1.6

          • Edward Odom

            So in my previous comments I show you statistics that shows that the prime indicator of crime is poverty and then show you numbers that shows that crime is equal per capita in blacks and whites when poverty rates are included…and your response is this??? So based on your last comment to me which mentioned, “groid infested neighborhoods” and frankly a ton of your post that I see on your Disqus page, it’s obvious you have a problem with black people. Who knows why, maybe a black boy took your tonka truck when you were a tot. Frankly I don’t care! That’s between you, your parents, and your God. What does annoy me though is that when you and your types are faced with fact and numbers you all regurgitate garbage info that you make for each other and circulate across your sites. I don’t know where you got that info that you are displaying. I’ve seen it it on other sites where other haters like yourself have tried to use it to prove that blacks are criminals. The first thing about this chart that gives me pause even if it is legit is that it only shows the percentage of black people in the city. So again you all are being disingenuous to try and prove a point. Now since you brought it up lets go there. But with real statistics and the complete infon ot just half.

            I went to neighborhood.com which provides the most dangerous cities based on the reported violent crimes in relation to population. They get their information from the FBI Crime statistics. I also referenced it with an article in the Huffington Post. A paper that you probably don’t like but they got their info from the same place. According to these sources the 10 most dangerous cities with at least 100,000 people are:

            1.Detroit, Michigan 81.55% black 12.26% white
            2. Oakland, California 35.66% black 31.26% white
            3. Memphis, Tennessee 61.41% black 34.41% white
            4. St. Louis, Missouri 51.2% black 43.85% white
            5. Cleveland, Ohio 50.19% black 41.49% white
            6. Little Rock, Arkansas 40.41% black 55.07% white
            7. Baltimore, Maryland 64.34% black 31.63% white
            8. Rockford, Illinois 72.81% black 17.37% white
            9. Milwaukee, Wisconsin 37.34%black 49.98% white
            10. Birmingham, Alabama 73.46% black 24.00% white

            It is notable to add that these cities are also some of the highest in poverty rates which proves my previous points. And when you actually show all the data, the population of both blacks and whites, you see that in most of the cities the difference between the population is not that great. In some you actually have more whites than blacks. Again this proves my point that crime has nothing to do with race. If there is a high rate of poverty within a city then you have a likely chance of having a high crime rate no matter if blacks are whites are the inhabitants. To address crime in a city it has to be done by addressing poverty and education. But then again you don’t really care about a solution do you?

          • John J Rouse

            The common denominator isn’t poverty, if that’s the case Appalachia would be full of crime, it’s blacks. All the criminal thug nfl and basketball players prove my point.

          • Edward Odom

            See I know you are not stupid. If I thought you were stupid I wouldn’t bother to engage you. So You just choose to be ignorant and not use common sense. Then again if you used your common sense it wouldn’t allow you to hate black people and God forbid that happens! Your whole little world would crumble. I know I’m wasting my time but I’m going to keep answering your hateful rhetoric with the hope that someone else reads our exchange and see how ignorant your arguments sound.

            So I have already given you the numbers which show the population by race breakdown of the 10 highest rated cities in regards to crime. These statistics disproves your theory that it is because they are filled with black people. Two of the cities has a majority of white people and most of the others with a few exception has negligible differences. So instead of addressing those facts you want to talk about Appalachia. Well OK.. I will indulge you. Areas like Appalachia and West Virginia are poverty stricken rural areas. Non-Metropolitan areas like these always have had lower crime rates than their Metropolitan counterpart for obvious reasons. In cities people practically live on top of one another. There is a lot more interaction both positive and negative so it follows that a metropolitan area will have more crime. Appalachia is so spacious you would have to buy a tank of gas just to rob somebody. So lets see if you can keep up. (I’m not usually this smug but your insistent ignorance annoys me) We have talked about several principals in relation to interaction. Crime is just a form of negative interaction. In order to interact you need availability. When the population is spread over large geographic areas it affects availability. There has been spacial analysis done on Appalachia to explain this phenomenon. Now What!

          • Edward Odom

            This is another one of my comments that was deleted. So in case you missed the answer

            Edward Odom>>John J Rouse
            See I know you are not stupid. If I thought you were stupid I wouldn’t bother to engage you. So You just choose to be ignorant and not use common sense. Then again if you used your common sense it wouldn’t allow you to hate black people and God forbid that happens! Your whole little world would crumble. I know I’m wasting my time but I’m going to keep answering your hateful rhetoric with the hope that someone else reads our exchange and see how ignorant your arguments sound.
            So I have already given you the numbers which show the population by race breakdown of the 10 highest rated cities in regards to crime. These statistics disproves your theory that it is because they are filled with black people. Two of the cities has a majority of white people and most of the others with a few exception has negligible differences. So instead of addressing those facts you want to talk about Appalachia. Well OK.. I will indulge you. Areas like Appalachia and West Virginia are poverty stricken rural areas. Non-Metropolitan areas like these always have had lower crime rates than their Metropolitan counterpart for obvious reasons. In cities people practically live on top of one another. There is a lot more interaction both positive and negative so it follows that a metropolitan area will have more crime. Appalachia is so spacious you would have to buy a tank of gas just to rob somebody. So lets see if you can keep up. (I’m not usually this smug but your insistent ignorance annoys me) We have talked about several principals in relation to interaction. Crime is just a form of negative interaction. In order to interact you need availability. When the population is spread over large geographic areas it affects availability. There has been spacial analysis done on Appalachia to explain this phenomenon. Now What!

          • John J Rouse

            I saw your last comment in email but I guess the moderator though it was too much BS so he deleted it, your numbers don’t look good at all, mr. Fake engineer, if you had an ounce of intelligence, which you don’t, you know that black crime is the highest. You’re part of the problem as to why it won’t be fixed, yes, thanks to Apefirmitive Blacktion there are black engineers, lawyers, doctors. But you’re just not one of them. You’re too stupid even by black standards.

          • Edward Odom

            If it was deleted then it was only because it was too much truth! You keep saying the same thing. You are like a little kid who puts their hands over their ears and sings la la la. I gave you the numbers and they are correct. You can ignore it as much as you want but it doesn’t change the facts. But I’m not surprised. Historically racist like you lied and ignored the obvious. Fortunately you are the minority in America. Anyway I’ll give you another chance to respond. Lets see if this gets deleted.

            I understand this table and these statistics better than you ever could. You say you are a cop, well I’m an Engineer and I understand numbers and how they work. Oh Yeah, reality check, black people are engineers, doctors, lawyers, teachers, nurses, professionals, blue collar workers, military men, policemen, college grads…Every walk of life. That crap you say on your page is just that. The crap that I wipe off of the bottom of my shoe. Your world would crumble if you had to admit to yourself that black people are not the cause of all that ails America. Then you would have to take some culpability for the state you are in. You would have to admit that maybe the reason that blacks, latinos, and immigrants are passing your segment of the population by is because they are preparing themselves better. The are going to school while you are still waiting for everything to fall at your feet. The bottom line is that you are holding on to this one statistic for dear life because it is what comforts you in your racist beliefs. I don’t use that word lightly. I actually think that word is thrown around too freely these days. It takes away from the impact when a real racist like you surfaces. I don’t live there now but I grew up in South Carolina so I know what a racist sound like. I don’t have to hesitate when I classify you though, because you are proud of it. In our exchange alone you have called black people Kneegars and Diggers. A cute way to not say it but for people to know what you mean. I have looked at your Disqus page and you have all kinds of racist comments and statements. So you don’t hide it, you gloat in it. Good for you. At least people know where you stand. Hey that is your right. This country gives you the privilege to hate whoever you want. But be a man about it! It’s not good enough for you and your racist associates to say I hate black people because I just hate them. No reason! But you don’t want to just say that because then you look like the scum of the earth! Even racist don’t want to seem like bad people. So you and your racist associates lie. You make up things. You tell each other that you have the right to hate black people because they are all criminals! They are all murderers! That they have never done a thing on this earth. You say stupid things like “Blacks at 13% of the population has more murders and robberies than the other 87% combined” And then your ignorant behind drops the mike like you just said something profound. Are you so blinded by your hate that all logic have left you? Can you not understand that you are talking about blacks committing 4,224 homicides for the whole year? I personally think that is 4,224 too many and no homicide is justified. But I’m also not going to fall in your trap of thinking all black people are murderers because some very bad people who happened to be black committed a horrendous crime. You racist always want to bring up the 13%. Well that equates to 45,672,250 black people in these United States. You want to make everyone believe that black people as a whole are murderers because out of 45,672,250 black folks, 4,224 of them committed a murder. That is .00009% of the total black population. Less than 1%, 1 person out of every 10,813 black people! But you ignoramuses sit around making each other feel better for hating us, for classifying every one of us as criminals because less than 1% of our population committed a murder. Your “facts might be dead on”, as you said above but to what end? Fortunately, most of America is too smart to believe that crap that you spew!

          • John J Rouse

            Y’all also commit the majority of child sex abuse in this country as well….despite being just barely 13% of the population. What’s wrong with y’all?

            https://www.ncjrs.gov/App/publications/Abstract.aspx?id=237711

          • John J Rouse

            You keep getting deleted, Holmes. Start speaking the truth and I doubt it will. Would love to hear your excuse for all the black child sex abuse crimes.

          • Edward Odom

            Yes you are right. I see that most of my post filled with facts and statistics were deleted. Yey your racist drivel is all over this site. That tells me all I need to know about who runs this site. That is ok though. I have all of the exchanges and there are other sites that I can post it along with the fact that it was deleted off of this one. I’ll answer your child sex abuse claims but they though they will probably get deleted. There is no section on the official FBI report for child sex abuse cases. I don’t know where your info is from but they are probably more lies. What it does have though is Rape statistics,
            Whites 67.2& Blacks 29.9; Sex Offenses, Whites 72.5% Blacks 24.3; Offenses against Family and children, Whites 64.4%, Blacks 32.9%; So there are the facts. the link is https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2014/crime-in-the-u.s.-2014/tables/table-43. Lets see if this gets deleted.

          • John J Rouse

            I know there isn’t but I did find a link….mine was deleted earlier so I’ll try again. 13% and 1/3 of all sex crimes….smdh.

            https://www.ncjrs.gov/App/publications/Abstract.aspx?id=237711

          • Edward Odom

            Oh my God you are frustratingly stupid!! At least you did reference a real web site this time. So kudos on that! But you read it wrong! That’s OK though because you have a racist handicap. I’ll go slow as I explain it. The report did not say that blacks committed 27.9% of the Child Sexual Abuse (CSA) Cases. It said that the prevalence of Child Sexual Abuse Cases overall is 27.9%. “smh” And while you accurately stated that black women were more likely to experince CSA 1.75 times more than white women, as usual you only gave the part of the story. Below is the full statement) The report went on to say that White women were 2.5 times more likely to experience CSA before the age of 7. Now if I would stoop to your low level, I would say that you white people had a thing for 6 year old little girls! But I don’t stoop to your level. I actually don’t think any of this has to do with anyone’s race. I don’t even think your racism has anything to do with you being white, Its just you being stupid. What wrong with ya’ll!! BTW I know you were trying to be insulting with that Ya’ll thing but I actually say it all the time. I’m from the south. We all say it down there white and black. Try harder!

            “The child sexual abuse (CSA) prevalence rate in this study was 27.9 percent. Initial analysis showed that African-American women were 1.75 times more likely than White women to have experienced CSA. Having a stepfather or a working mother did not increase the prevalence of CSA. There were no significant racial differences found in the nature, severity, or aftermath of CSA. Some differences of potential importance included: (1) White women were 2.5 times more likely than African-American women to experience CSA before age 7; (2) African-American women were more likely to report the occurrence of CSA during adolescence; (3) no race differences were found in the rate of incest, but African-American women were more likely to report increased incidence of perpetrators living in the same household; (4) African-American women were more likely to report more than one perpetrator; and (5) White women rated the effect of CSA similarly to African-American women at the time it occurred but as having a worse impact on their lives overall. Differences in family structure remained important even among the two-parent families. Researchers have long been interested in racial differences in the characteristics and prevalence of CSA. Even though African-American and White women have been compared, many questions remain. This study addressed one of these questions. It was interested in racial differences in CSA among African-American women and White women who had lived in two-parent families, with either biological or stepparents, for most of their childhood. It examined characteristics of the CSA experience and its immediate aftermath, and it compared the prevalence of CSA by race. The study sample consisted of 290 women raised in 2-parent families”

          • John J Rouse

            You don’t understand over all,stats. Blacks were more likely to get raped by family members at a young age than whites. Remember white women outnumber blacks 7-1. So as a whole it’s 24 more times likely for a black kid to be raped by a family member than a white. I know, I know, your small brain, simplistic frontal lobes and low IQ just can’t comprehend.

          • Edward Odom

            Dude you are like a bad episode of Honey Boo Boo. If you are capable, try reading the entire report. As the last line reads, “The study sample consisted of 290 women”. It has nothing to do with the population ratio. They studied 290 women. I would imagine they studied an equal amount of women to get a fair sampling but this document doesn’t say. Your “13%” answer doesn’t fit every argument! Just because you have a hammer, everything isn’t a nail. Oh I’m sorry was that to complicated for you?

          • John J Rouse

            It has everything to do with population. It shows what we all know. That the black male is a rape ape.

          • Edward Odom

            Ok. Officer Rouse I have gone with you as far as I want to go. Just so you know. It was never my intent to change your ignorant mind or educate you. Y’all believe your crap because you want to believe it. It makes you sleep better at night. But if any of your buddies ever want to come out of the cave then you can share my info with them. Y’all might learn something! It was entertaining though. And they actually give you a gun Huh? I feel sorry for the people of Pittsburgh. Have a nice life! Y’all!

          • John J Rouse

            We already know, that blacks commit the vast majority of all crimes and when comes,to violent crimes they lead in every category

          • John J Rouse

            Brain mass differences between racial groups in the US

            Jensen (1998) summarizes the brain mass findings from the Case-Western Reserve (1980) study (N= 811 W, 450 B). An age matched and height adjusted B-W differences of ~100g (~.78SD) was found, which is commensurate with the findings of Bean (1906), Mall (1909), Pearl (1934), and Vint (1934) as described in Rushton and Ankney (2009). Holloway (2002) found a B-W difference of 63 grams (N = 1,391 W; 615 Black). Similar findings have been found based in imaging studies (see 5). In their study, Isamah, et al. (2010) found that African Americans have 1 SD less total cerebrum volume than European Americans.

            ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

            Contrary to most purely environmental theories, racial differences in brain size show up early in life. Data from the U.S. National Collaborative Perinatal Project on 19,000 Black children and 17,000 White children showed that Black children had a smaller head perimeter at birth and, although Black children were born shorter in stature and lighter in weight than White children, by age 7 ‘catch-up growth’ led Black children to be larger in body size than White children. However, Blacks remained smaller in head perimeter (Broman et al., 1987). Further, head perimeter at birth, 1 year, 4 years, and 7 years correlated with IQ scores at age 7 in both Black and White children (r = 0.13 to 0.24).

            ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

            Brain Size Differences. Studies using magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) find a correlation of brain size with IQ of about 0.40. Larger brains contain more neurons and synapses and process information faster. Race differences in brain size are present at birth. By adulthood, East Asians average 1 cubic inch more cranial capacity than Whites who average 5 cubic inches more than Blacks.

            “Neither the existence nor the size of race differences in IQ are a matter of dispute, only their cause,” write the authors. The Black-White difference has been found consistently from the time of the massive World War I Army testing of 90 years ago to a massive study of over 6 million corporate, military, and higher-education test-takers in 2001.

            “Race differences show up by 3 years of age, even after matching on maternal education and other variables,” said Rushton. “Therefore they cannot be due to poor education since this has not yet begun to exert an effect. That’s why Jensen and I looked at the genetic hypothesis in detail. We examined 10 categories of evidence.”

            1. The Worldwide Pattern of IQ Scores; East Asians average higher on IQ tests than Whites, both in the U. S. and in Asia, even though IQ tests were developed for use in the Euro-American culture. Around the world, the average IQ for East Asians centers around 106; for Whites, about 100; and for Blacks about 85 in the U.S. and 70 in sub-Saharan Africa.

            2. Race Differences are Most Pronounced on Tests that Best Measure the General Intelligence Factor (g); Black-White differences, for example, are larger on the Backward Digit Span test than on the less g loaded Forward Digit Span test.

            3. The Gene-Environment Architecture of IQ is the Same in all Races, and Race Differences are Most Pronounced on More Heritable Abilities; Studies of Black, White, and East Asian twins, for example, show the heritability of IQ is 50% or higher in all races.

            4. Brain Size Differences; Studies using magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) find a correlation of brain size with IQ of about 0.40. Larger brains contain more neurons and synapses and process information faster. Race differences in brain size are present at birth. By adulthood, East Asians average 1 cubic inch more cranial capacity than Whites who average 5 cubic inches more than Blacks.

            5. Trans-Racial Adoption Studies; Race differences in IQ remain following adoption by White middle class parents. East Asians grow to average higher IQs than Whites while Blacks score lower. The Minnesota Trans-Racial Adoption Study followed children to age 17 and found race differences were even greater than at age 7: White children, 106; Mixed-Race children, 99; and Black children, 89.

            6. Racial Admixture Studies; Black children with lighter skin, for example, average higher IQ scores. In South Africa, the IQ of the mixed-race “Colored” population averages 85, intermediate to the African 70 and White 100.

            -June 2005, Psychology, Public Policy and Law, a journal of the American Psychological Association

          • Edward Odom

            Ha Ha, What’s the matter Barney Fife? You miss me? I tell you I’m done and you keep sending me stuff. I know it’s eating you up. Y’all need all that eugenics nonsense to convince youselves that you are better than us. But here I am with my small brain and low IQ making you look silly in your own house for all your other buddies to see. Can’t take it can you!. You have been regurgitating all that garbage and I have been throwing it back in your face. What amazes me about you white supremacist types is that you all are obsessed with us. You put all this effort in creating these studies about us. You talk about us all the time. You try to call us names. It’s not for our benefit because we know better. Its all so that you all can make yourselves feel better because a long time ago your rich white brothers told you that you will never be good as them but at least you are better than those black people. And instead of fighting the real people that have always kept you down y’all held on to that like a dog with a bone! But then you look up and those black people keep moving along. We are college graduates. We own our own homes and businesses. We run fortune 500 companies. We have excelled in every profession and walk of life. We have even attained your most coveted position of the President of the United States. Our children are friends with your children because they are too enlightened to believe your mess. And you all are so angry that you can barely see. You all want to focus on a small part of our population and say look at those black people. They are horrible and in the meantime the rest of us are passing you by. But that’s ok. Keep talking, keep pointing. Throw your tantrum! We will just keep on moving!

            I’ll be extremely surprised if this doesn’t get deleted but at least you will have seen it!

          • John J Rouse

            Where is the evidence of Black intelligence?

            Blacks have by far the lowest IQs of any race; 80% score at or below the “low functioning” category.

            The least intelligent 10% of Whites have IQs below 80; 40% of Blacks do.

            Only one-in-six Blacks is more intelligent than the average White; five-in-six Whites are more intelligent than the average Black.

            Only the top 16% of Blacks score as high as the top 50% of Whites. Or as the New York Times put it, “…the difference in I.Q. points between the groups is quite significant. It means that the top sixth of Blacks score only as well on I.Q. tests as do the top half of Whites.”

            Only one-in-3.5 million (.00003%) African Blacks have an IQ of 140 or higher (genius level). But one-in-83 (1.2%) U.S. Whites is a genius. Therefore the per capita genius rate for U.S.-resident Whites is 41,000 times higher than it is for African Blacks.

            US-resident Blacks have higher intelligence than African Blacks due to the approximately 28% average White admixture.

            IQ distribution by race/ethnicity:

            • Ashkenazi Jews = 115
            • East Asians = 106
            • Whites = 100
            • South East Asians = 87
            • Non-White Hispanics = 86
            • American Blacks = 85 (average 28% White admixture)
            • Middle East and North Africans = 84
            • Sub-Saharan Blacks = 67 (Only 2% of Whites score this low)
            • Australian Aborigines = 62

            Therefore, the IQ distribution for US-resident Blacks having an average IQ of 85 and a standard deviation of 12.4 doesn’t mean that there are no US-resident Blacks at all with IQs above 140; it means that only one US-resident Black in about 218,000 will have an IQ above 140

          • John J Rouse

            The child sexual abuse (CSA) prevalence rate in this study was 27.9 percent. Initial analysis showed that African-American women were 1.75 times more likely than White women to have experienced CSA. Having a stepfather or a working mother did not increase the prevalence of CSA.

            What’s wrong with y’all, man?

          • John J Rouse

            It’s no wonder everytime I look up local sex offender registry I see a dark face staring back….and I live in a high majority white area!

          • John J Rouse

            “Wherever you find the ne5ro everything is going down around him, and wherever you find the white man you see everything around him improving.”

            –Robert E. Lee, to Col. Thomas H. Carter, May, 1865

          • John J Rouse

            I also see that my previous comment was deleted so here goes again.

            This table can be used for a number of interesting calculations. First, we find that during the 2012/2013 period, blacks committed an average of 560,600 violent crimes against whites, whereas whites committed only 99,403 such crimes against blacks. This means blacks were the attackers in 84.9 percent of the violent crimes involving blacks and whites. This figure is consistent with reports from 2008, the last year DOJ released similar statistics. Perhaps not coincidentally, that was the year Mr. Obama was elected president.

            Interestingly, we find that violent interracial crime involving blacks and Hispanics occurs in almost exactly the same proportions as black/white crime: Blacks are the attackers 82.5 percent of the time, while Hispanics are attackers only 17.5 percent of the time.

          • John J Rouse

            This table can be used for a number of interesting calculations. First, we find that during the 2012/2013 period, blacks committed an average of 560,600 violent crimes against whites, whereas whites committed only 99,403 such crimes against blacks. This means blacks were the attackers in 84.9 percent of the violent crimes involving blacks and whites. This figure is consistent with reports from 2008, the last year DOJ released similar statistics. Perhaps not coincidentally, that was the year Mr. Obama was elected president.

            Interestingly, we find that violent interracial crime involving blacks and Hispanics occurs in almost exactly the same proportions as black/white crime: Blacks are the attackers 82.5 percent of the time, while Hispanics are attackers only 17.5 percent of the time.

          • John J Rouse

            Got this from the website too, you numb digger

            This table can be used for a number of interesting calculations. First, we find that during the 2012/2013 period, blacks committed an average of 560,600 violent crimes against whites, whereas whites committed only 99,403 such crimes against blacks. This means blacks were the attackers in 84.9 percent of the violent crimes involving blacks and whites. This figure is consistent with reports from 2008, the last year DOJ released similar statistics. Perhaps not coincidentally, that was the year Mr. Obama was elected president.

          • Edward Odom

            Oooh, name calling again huh? I love it! It means that you don’t have much to say! And by this post I see that you don’t! This is another predictable argument that I have seen a million times! You really need to get more original arguments! So again lets see if you can keep up! As your types love to point out there are 5 times more white people than black people. So statistically there is less black people available for whites to assault. To put it simpler, if I put 25 people in a wrestling ring representative of the population ratio of 5:1, there would be 20 white people and 5 black people. Now I tell them to go at it! Try as hard as they might, the white people can not assault anymore than 5 blacks while the blacks, if they assaulted all the whites they could, would assault 20 whites. There was no lack of a special skill or tenacity which explains why the whites could not assault more blacks. It was just the lack of availability. So white people get no special merit badge because statistically they assaulted a less percentage of blacks than vice versa. And blacks don’t get classified as any more violent. It is just a matter of availability!

          • Edward Odom

            I see that this reply was deleted before. I don’t want to deny you of the privilege of having this important information. The stuff in the beginning doesn’t have the same effect since it’s after the fact. But the information is still good. Learn something!

            Oooh, name calling again huh? I love it! It means that you don’t have much to say! And by this post I see that you don’t! This is another predictable argument that I have seen a million times! You really need to get more original arguments! So again let’s see if you can keep up! As your types love to point out there are 5 times more white people than black people. So statistically there is less black people available for whites to assault. To put it simpler, if I put 25 people in a wrestling ring representative of the population ratio of 5:1, there would be 20 white people and 5 black people. Now I tell them to go at it! Try as hard as they might, the white people cannot assault any more than 5 blacks, while the blacks, if they assaulted all the whites they could, would assault 20 whites. There was no lack of a special skill or tenacity which explains why the whites could not assault more blacks. It was just the lack of availability. So white people get no special merit badge because statistically they assaulted a less percentage of blacks than vice versa. And blacks don’t get classified as any more violent. It is just a matter of availability!

          • John J Rouse

            Here’s a break down of all the crimes.

            2014 b|ack crime statistics, as compiled by the FBI

            BIacks were charged with
            54% of the murders,
            33% of the rapes,
            56% of the robberies,
            35% of the aggravated assaults,
            29% of the burglaries,
            29% of the larcenies,
            35% of the car thefts,
            22% of the arsons,
            32% of all other forms of assault,
            28% of the forgeries,
            30% of all fraud,
            32% of all embezzlement,
            34% of dealing in stolen property violations,
            22% of all vandalism violations,
            41% of the weapon possession violations,
            40% of the prostitution violations,
            25% of all other sexual offences,
            35% of the drug abuse violations,
            72% of the gambling violations,
            35% of the disorderly conduct violations
            and 42% of the vagrancy violations.
            In total, blacks were charged with 39% of all violent crime and 29% of
            all property crime in the United States in 2010.

            In the juvenile division, blacks were charged with

            59% of the murders,
            34% of the rapes,
            67% of the robberies,
            42% of the aggravated assaults,
            32% of the burglaries,
            30% of the larcenies and
            43% of the car thefts,
            39% of all other forms of assault,
            24% of the forgeries,
            34% of all fraud,
            38% of all embezzlement,
            42% of dealing in stolen property,
            19% of all vandalism violations,
            37% of all weapons carrying violations,
            54% of the prostitution violations,
            27% of other sexual offences,
            30% of all drug abuse violations,
            91% of the gambling violations,
            23% of the crimes against family and children,
            22% of the vagrancy violations
            and 40% of the disorderly conduct violations.
            Black juveniles committed 51% of all juvenile violent crime and 31% of
            all juvenile property crime.

            In 2013 27.6% of all adults arrested were black. Of all juveniles
            (individuals under the age of 18) arrested in 2010 in the Nation,
            30.3% were black.

            The arrests of adults for murder were nearly equal between white and
            black arrestees, with 50.0% being black, and 47.7 %being white.

            And all of this coming from an ethnic group that comprises just barely
            13% of the U.S. population. That’s one in every seven people on the street! Now you know what people use the color of their skin for… As a WARNING flag. That’s all.
            When they stop behaving like sub-humans, then maybe we’ll stop looking on them as such….

          • Edward Odom

            This list again demonstrates how you sorts misrepresent numbers to keep your masses ignorant. Below is the entire table which gives all of the numbers. When you look at the entire table you see that when all crimes are calculated Whites committed 69.4% all crime while Blacks only committed 27.8%. That kind of put a hole in that theory you liars spread to each other about Blacks being the criminals while white people are angels. This actually tells the opposite story. Also if you want to break down the crimes, while blacks committed 51.3% of the murders, whites committed 46.3%. Not a big difference huh? And don’t try the same old tired argument of whites being 67% of the population while Blacks are 12%. In a previous post I explained that crime isn’t committed by the entire population of a race. It is concentrated in the impoverished areas. When the calculations are made with poverty in mind crime is committed in .07% of the white population and .03% of the Black population. But if you insist that blacks are murderers because 51.3% of them are attributed to blacks vs. the 46% to whites, then we must also conclude that whites are pervert rapist since 67.2% of all rapes are attributed to whites while comparatively 29.9% are attributed to blacks. So once again if you want to use statistics to prove a point. Use all of the statistics and not just what supports your viewpoint. All that does is make you a liar. If you want to see the entire table the link is
            https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2014/crime-in-the-u.s.-2014/tables/table-43 https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/cf664b2288c7d630eace87c053fb5328a602ca6cb3b4b5715a16d4a5c4dc9e37.jpg

          • John J Rouse

            You do understand that table has whites and Hispanics combined, right? Blacks 13% of the population has more murders and robberies than the other 87% combined……my facts are dead on. Again, every crime category blacks have more crimes than relative to their population.

          • Edward Odom

            I understand this table and these statistics better than you ever could. You say you are a cop, well I’m an Engineer and I understand numbers and how they work. Oh Yeah, reality check, black people are engineers, doctors, lawyers, teachers, nurses, professionals, blue collar workers, military men, policemen, college grads…Every walk of life. That crap you say on your page is just that. The crap that I wipe off of the bottom of my shoe. Your world would crumble if you had to admit to yourself that black people are not the cause of all that ails America. Then you would have to take some culpability for the state you are in. You would have to admit that maybe the reason that blacks, latinos, and immigrants are passing your segment of the population by is because they are preparing themselves better. The are going to school while you are still waiting for everything to fall at your feet. The bottom line is that you are holding on to this one statistic for dear life because it is what comforts you in your racist beliefs. I don’t use that word lightly. I actually think that word is thrown around too freely these days. It takes away from the impact when a real racist like you surfaces. I don’t live there now but I grew up in South Carolina so I know what a racist sounds like. I don’t have to hesitate when I classify you though, because you are proud of it. In our exchange alone you have called black people Kneegars and Diggers. A cute wau to not say it but for people to know what you mean. I have looked at your Disqus page and you have all kinds of racist comments and statements. So you don’t hide it, you gloat in it. Good for you. At least people know where you stand. Hey that is your right. This country gives you the privilege to hate whoever you want. But be a man about it! It’s not good enough for you and your racist associates to say I hate black people because I just hate them. No reason! But you don’t want to just say that because then you look like the scum of the earth! Even racist don’t want to seem like bad people. So you and your racist associates lie. You make up things. You tell each other that you have the right to hate black people because they are all criminals! They are all murderers! That they have never done a thing on this earth. You say stupid things like “Blacks at 13% of the population has more murders and robberies than the other 87% combined” And then your ignorant behind drops the mike like you just said something profound. Are you so blinded by your hate that all logic have left you? Can you not understand that you are talking about blacks committing 4,224 homicides for the whole year? You racist always want to bring up the 13%. Well that equates to 45,672,250 black people in these United States. You want to make everyone believe that black people as a whole are murderers because out of 45,672,250 black folk, 4,224 of them committed a murder. That is .00009% the total black population. Less than 1%, 1 person out of every 10,813 black people! But you ignoramuses sit around making each other feel better for hating us, for classifying everyone of us as criminals because less than 1% of our population committed a murder. Your “facts might be dead on”, as you said above but to what end? Fortunately most of America is too smart to believe that crap that you spew!

  • RobertP

    Do cop-killers typically inform the officer that they’re carrying? How is a cop’s incorrect suspicion that someone is an armed robber support for killing them?

  • Think

    The officer recognized the car as being the one used by the Lauderdale convenience store robbers. Which, by the way, were Philando and the purse-carrying Ms. Reynolds poorly disguised as a man

  • Accountable

    With 52 prior traffic violations it is fair to say he was not a threat for violence as the other 52 times there was cooperation. This was an unjust killing. Call it panic. Try to justify it however you want, but in doing so you’re part of the problem. This is manslaughter. It wasn’t intentional but he is still responsible.

  • jon

    This website is just a black hole of ignorance and white privilege.

    • John J Rouse

      No such thing as white privledge but it’s definetly a priveldge being white,

      • jon

        wow. i don’t even need to say anything. your comment only affirmed my point.

        • John J Rouse

          Yea you don’t. It’s not our fault you’re part of the cursed race.

          • jon

            Your assumption is both correct and incorrect. I am a white male. That said, I am a part of the cursed race called mankind, that’s riddled with brokenness and sin. Much like the prejudice you’ve expressed here today. Best of luck. The world you can survive in is shrinking around you.

          • John J Rouse

            Yea, sure you are. What people,don’t whine about fake white priveldge. Shut the fuck up.

          • jon

            cool. you are either acting as parody of a stereotypical racist white guy or you’re one of the ugliest people on the inside i’ve ever interacted with. either way, i’m out.

          • John J Rouse

            I thought I told you to shut the fuck up, darky, your jealousy of whites is obvious. Sounds like you need some black dick in your ass.

  • dxhydro1 .

    Holy shit -How can you nazi pricks talk about this victim of senseless violence like this.
    Bottom line is this: His car was pulled over by a peckerwood cop (not necessarily a racist) because he was black and driving in a white area. “He had a wide nose”? WTF? That describes a LOT of black guys!
    The whole confrontation would not have occurred if he had not been racially profiled. Period.
    If he was nervous and reached for his wallet when the cop said not to move, that’s not the same as aggressively reaching for his gun!
    Was he “on marijuana”? Who knows and who cares? Probably not. There was a little marijuana in the car. Some of you assholes posted that this makes his girlfriend a “bad mother” -Posting that makes you BAD PEOPLE! Klan type people.
    He was shot for driving while black -and maybe being nervous around white cops -that’s all.
    If he was going to shoot the cops he probably would not have told them he had a gun!
    Or is he going to shoot his way out of a suspended license ticket?
    I had suspected such but reading some of the posts on this site convinces me that blue lives matter is nothing but a place for racist pricks to share their like minded views with other racist pricks while refusing to hold “law enforcement” responsible.
    I must add, in the dumbass cop’s defense, that he sounded remorseful that he took this young man’s life. OR maybe he was upset that he might face some consequences for killing a man.
    The cops really need to come up with some non-lethal means of incapacitating a “suspect”. Maybe rubber bullets should be in their main clip (they can switch to steel if and when necessary). Something like that…
    You jerk-offs should be ashamed of yourselves (you know who you are).

  • bluefission

    Fuck blue lives! Especially when you do shit like this to my people…fuck you!

  • Rahim El

    Good Morning I just read this story again about the shooting death of Philando Castille. This incident was heartbreaking to me and my family. I am an inventor and product developer. So after many shootings and this one in particular I forced myself to innovate and come up with a device that could virtually eliminate ever reaching again for your license, registration and insurance cards!

    LRI Safety Wallet is the product that when activated gives the driver the benefits when pulled over to have all three documents at their finger tips on display. I would love to be put in contact with people to help bring awareness this product for drivers like Philando police officers and others.

    To that end these articles has a ring of sincerity that permeates for which I need to help mitigate these acts of senseless violence, your help would be appreciated.

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  • Ken

    The excuses are weak. Trigger happy cop
    Period.